UFC Merchandising Agreement - Fighters Get Scammed - Page 2

Pink Butterfly · 06-24-2008, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DNA4421

i doubt any fighter would make more money consistantly outside of the UFC

Really? Companies like K-1 can't pay the same or better? MMA is a lot more mainstream in Japan. Hell KID is sponsored by Reebok. Akiyama has Nike. Caol Uno has his clothing brand through Nike. What Joachim Hansen, Fedor, Tito and Randy said about UFC seem to be true

DNA4421 · 06-24-2008, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pink Butterfly

Really? Companies like K-1 can't pay the same or better? MMA is a lot more mainstream in Japan. Hell KID is sponsored by Reebok. Akiyama has Nike. Caol Uno has his clothing brand through Nike. What Joachim Hansen, Fedor, Tito and Randy said about UFC seem to be true

but when speaking of the UFC we are talking about the US
most fighters on the UFC,ELite,WEC roster make their living and homes in the US....

you are right fighters who live overseas make money overseas but who knows them in the states?????? Fedor anyone????

FortheLoveofMMA · 06-24-2008, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pink Butterfly

Really? Companies like K-1 can't pay the same or better? MMA is a lot more mainstream in Japan. Hell KID is sponsored by Reebok. Akiyama has Nike. Caol Uno has his clothing brand through Nike. What Joachim Hansen, Fedor, Tito and Randy said about UFC seem to be true

very good points you bring up pink butterfly, please allow me to expand upon them....

Lets take Boxing for example (since its most often compared to MMA).

What team does Calzaghe train with? How about Pernell Whitaker? What team he with? Who is his coach?

I have no clue either. I can tell you, however, the team affiliation of most fighters appearing on big shows in MMA. They train with dozens of others. The bigger fight teams, and they are just that, teams, have 50-60 members.

Should these "team" brands have jerseys and gear that sell, as opposed to a UFC emblazoned t-shirt? I don't see "Top-Rank" shirts in JC Penney's, and worn by hoards of fans. Likewise, when I go to an NFL game, I don't see 1000's of fans in grey t's with "NFL" plastered on the front or hats adorning the "league" logo. I see player merchandise, and player gear.

You think an EASports would be interested in making a video game where the public could fight Fedor Emelianenko against Gina Carano? Big John McCarthy against Phil Baroni? Couture against Kimbo? I think they would be highly interested in such a game. What stops this from occurring, I wonder......

Every other sport does this, why should MMA fighters give away 90% of their potential monies, when it is their very likeness generating the revenue?

FortheLoveofMMA · 06-24-2008, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DNA4421

but when speaking of the UFC we are talking about the US
most fighters on the UFC,ELite,WEC roster make their living and homes in the US....

you are right fighters who live overseas make money overseas but who knows them in the states?????? Fedor anyone????

Imagine if the talent, under a banner of their own, recognized an official rankings committee, to rank fighters.

Since the rankings are recognized and legitimized by the talent and the instructors directly, the media would quickly be forced to recognize these rankings, and many would embrace such a move enthusiastically.

As this ranking became known, and the fighter's brand grew, the promotional "brand" would be of far less importance. When CBS or HDNet want to hype a main event, they can use the identities of the fighters directly, and the official rankings recognized by the talent directly.

This very simple action would increase your marketability across all promotions, and create a more level playing field amongst the promotions that have been to date dominated by "brand".

Fighters adopt a brand of their own, and companies would line up to become an official sponsor.

LunchMoney · 06-24-2008, 09:01 PM

I wouldn't sign any contract with an unlimited term.
its up to the fighter to get proper legal representation
before signing. I'm surprised you don't see the fighters
hiring real sports agents to get them better contracts.
with terms this unfair it will probably happen sooner than later.

DNA4421 · 06-24-2008, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FortheLoveofMMA

Imagine if the talent, under a banner of their own, recognized an official rankings committee, to rank fighters.

Since the rankings are recognized and legitimized by the talent and the instructors directly, the media would quickly be forced to recognize these rankings, and many would embrace such a move enthusiastically.

As this ranking became known, and the fighter's brand grew, the promotional "brand" would be of far less importance. When CBS or HDNet want to hype a main event, they can use the identities of the fighters directly, and the official rankings recognized by the talent directly.

This very simple action would increase your marketability across all promotions, and create a more level playing field amongst the promotions that have been to date dominated by "brand".

Fighters adopt a brand of their own, and companies would line up to become an official sponsor.

well when the UFC announces their fighters on marketing plans in the states they can say that Big Nog,Rampage,the spider, GSP,BJ,and Faber are the #1 fighters in their weightclass in the world...who would correct them....SI,ESPN,Fox,Yahoo.....lol name brand recognition ....GOD bless America

DNA4421 · 06-24-2008, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LunchMoney

I wouldn't sign any contract with an unlimited term.
its up to the fighter to get proper legal representation
before signing. I'm surprised you don't see the fighters
hiring real sports agents to get them better contracts.
with terms this unfair it will probably happen sooner than later.

they do...when they have earned the right to negotiate for a contract.....