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06-25-2008, 11:03 PM
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"Don't you think some of the other major MMA news resources would have reported on the deal??"
They did. Check out Josh Gross's article on SI.com.
Fairly reputable source, I hear.
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06-25-2008, 11:04 PM
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#112 (permalink)
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Join Date: Apr 2006
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This is how I break it down. The NBA, NFL have figures that amount to about 6%-10% on merchandising sales per player. If MMA wants to be the NFL they are easily in the wheel house for merchandising. Former players in many cases get ZERO. Throwback Jearsys in most cases pay no Royalties, similar to early UFC dvd's. Now here the thing. The MMA in general has no real bargaining leverage because the fighters negotiate on their own. Another thing to consider is how Key to the UFC is lets say Randy Couture? Will paying Randy 5 million per fight bring in an additional 5 million in revenue per fight? Or will it work out better to pay a fighter like Werdum 70 thousand? The fighters do not sell the UFC. It sells itself. Titos, Randys and whoever wants more money will come and go but that MMA will live on. Getting 10%-20% is a lot.
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06-25-2008, 11:05 PM
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#113 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Macedawgg
"Don't you think some of the other major MMA news resources would have reported on the deal??"
They did. Check out Josh Gross's article on SI.com.
Fairly reputable source, I hear.
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06-25-2008, 11:05 PM
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#114 (permalink)
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White Belt
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Macedawgg
"Don't you think some of the other major MMA news resources would have reported on the deal??"
They did. Check out Josh Gross's article on SI.com.
Fairly reputable source, I hear.
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06-25-2008, 11:06 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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The term of the Agreement lasts forever, and the Marketing Rights for fighter are held by Zuffa even after a fighter is cut!
^ holy shit...
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06-25-2008, 11:07 PM
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#116 (permalink)
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White Belt
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06-25-2008, 11:09 PM
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#117 (permalink)
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White Belt
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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First of all, I question this source. Those aren't legal sentences. So, who says it's actually credible and exact wording. Those don't seem like legal terms or wording to me.
Secondly, some of those are flat out illegal, especially according to labor and intellectual property laws in California and New York. While this contract is probably being signed in Las Vegas, business is being conducted by many fighters in California, so you could legally argue the laws are California enforced.
Third, as someone pointed out, you should take a look at music contracts. They have some similarities, and in fact, I'd say musicians are getting raped even more. These contracts are standard. Some of those numbers actually aren't horrible. The key word in some of that was "gross" profits. 10-20% is better than 5%.
Overall, I don't think this is that bad. I have seen a lot worse. The UFC really doesn't screw fighters that badly. I am in the entertainment business and from time to time deal with the MMA business. I haven't seen many of the fighters hurting at all. Sponsors and the UFC want these fighters to stay in good standings, or they can't survive to fight.
If I were you guys, I'd start pointing fingers at attorneys and managers. Their goals are ultimately to make money on a large-scale and for their own companies. That means they have allegiance more towards the UFC and the organizations, rather than fighters. Yet, they would never claim that. Think about it. Piss off the UFC who you have future business with, or let a few things slip by?
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06-25-2008, 11:10 PM
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#118 (permalink)
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White Belt
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Where quotes are used in reference to the Agreement, they are taken directly from the Agreement itself.
Formatting, such as bolding, underlines, or italics was added by myself for emphasis at times.
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06-25-2008, 11:12 PM
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#119 (permalink)
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White Belt
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FightCrew
If I were you guys, I'd start pointing fingers at attorneys and managers. Their goals are ultimately to make money on a large-scale and for their own companies. That means they have allegiance more towards the UFC and the organizations, rather than fighters. Yet, they would never claim that. Think about it. Piss off the UFC who you have future business with, or let a few things slip by?
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interesting comment
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