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09-01-2006, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by SmokyMtMan
But how do you expect a fighter to reach his potential when they have to keep a full-time job while they fight? Take Chris Lyttle, he has 4 kids and has worked a full-time job as a firefighter the ENTIRE time he fought for the UFC.
How good would he have been if he made more than $2,000 a fight and could train full time? See our point? Only the top guys can train full time, the rest have to wait tables or run a paper route.
And that affects the quality of the fights we see, man.
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Good point. I train myself & have had a very hard time with it because I work at a warehouse job that casues me injuries that I don't need & I work 60 hours a week 6 days a week, people would say just get another job but I think we both know it isn't that easy especially since training is expensive & I can't afford to rebuild my salary now.
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09-01-2006, 08:16 PM
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#102 (permalink)
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That's just stupid.....
(only did this because it was at the top already)
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09-01-2006, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SmokyMtMan
Pay is getting better? Really?
UFC 47 Fighter Salaries
-Tito Ortiz: $125,000 ($125,000 for fighting; win bonus would have been $50,000)
-Chuck Liddell: $100,000 ($50,000 for fighting; $50,000 win bonus)
-Andrei Arlovski: $23,000 ($15,000 for fighting; $8,000 win bonus)
-Genki Sudo: $16,000 ($8,000 for fighting; $8,000 win bonus)
-Wes "Cabbage" Correira: $12,000 ($12,000 for fighting; win bonus would have been $12,000)
-Yves Edwards: $12,000 ($6,000 for fighting; $6,000 win bonusmmaweekly)
-Robbie Lawler: $8,000 ($8,000 for fighting; win bonus would have been $8,000)
-Hermes Franca: $6,000 ($6,000 for fighting; win bonus would have been $6,000)
-Nick Diaz: $6,000 ($3,000 for fighting; $3,000 win bonus)
-Mike Kyle: $6,000 ($3,000 for fighting; $3,000 win bonus)
-Wes Sims: $5,000 ($5,000 for fighting; win bonus would have been $5,000)
-Chris Lytle: $4,000 ($2,000 for fighting; $2,000 win bonus mmaweekly)
-Jonathan Wiezorek: $4,000 ($2,000 for fighting; $2,000 win bonus)
-Mike Brown: $2,000 ($2,000 for fighting; win bonus would have been $2,000)
-Tiki Ghosn: $2,000 ($2,000 for fighting; win bonus would have been $2,000)
-Wade Shipp: $2,000 ($2,000 for fighting; win bonus would have been $2,000)
Total Fighter Payroll: $333,000
UFC 62 Fighter Salaries
Event took place on August 26, 2006 and aired on pay-per-view
-Chuck Liddell: $250,000 (defeated Renato "Babalu" Sobral in co-main event)
-Forrest Griffin: $32,000 (defeated Stephan Bonnar in co-main event)
-Renato "Babalu" Sobral: $21,000 (lost to Chuck Liddell in co-main event)
-Nick Diaz: $20,000 (defeated Josh Neer)
-Stephan Bonnar: $16,000 (lost to Forrest Griffin in co-main event)
-Cheick Kongo: $12,000 (defeated Christian Wellisch)
-Hermes Franca: $12,000 (defeated Jamie Varner)
-Yushin Okami: $8,000 (defeated Alan Belcher)
-Josh Neer: $6,000 (lost to Nick Diaz)
-Rob MacDonald: $5,000 (lost to Eric Schafer)
-David Heath: $4,000 (defeated Cory Walmsley)
-Eric Schafer: $4,000 (defeated Rob MacDonald)
-Wilson Gouveia: $4,000 (defeated Wes Combs)
-Alan Belcher: $3,000 (lost to Yushin Okami)
-Christian Wellisch: $3,000 (lost to Cheick Kongo)
-Jamie Varner: $3,000 (lost to Hermes Franca)
-Wes Combs: $2,000 (lost to Wilson Gouveia)
-Cory Walmsley: $2,000 (lost to David Heath)
-Disclosed Fighter Payroll: $407,000
Compare these two card's salaries, and try to tell me that bullshit about the pay getting better. Some of you post shit you wish was true, but you have no idea if is true or not. Salaries haven't gone up at all.
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LOL.... thats not even factoring in what goes to good ol UNCLE SAM!
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09-01-2006, 08:28 PM
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#104 (permalink)
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LOL.... thats not even factoring in what goes to good ol UNCLE SAM!
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No kidding. Babalu made $21,000 to fight Chuck in the title fight. Because he is a foreigner, Babalu immedialtely pays 30% to the U.S. government. That means Babalu took $14,000 back to Brazil with him. FOR A UFC TITLE FIGHT. Sad, isn't it?
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09-01-2006, 08:29 PM
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#105 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Maverick84
Yeah, about that... UFC makes sure the fighters there sign contracts that own your soul... Like Franklin... he's binded to them for another 5 years....
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yeah, so if Franklin absolutely sucked, lost several fights in a row and got ko's by Danny Abbadi in 10 seconds would UFC be justified to say "you suck, so we're not paying you"? Contracts are only valid if they are freely signed so it isn't likely that Dana held a gun to anyone's head. If the fighters get paid so poorly they can go elsewhere, or quit fighting and get a job at pizza hut making my fu*king pizza. (End of rebuttal to Maverick84)
It never ceases to amaze me how people are so fuc*ing concerned about salaries when they 1. Don't know all the facts and 2. are not affected personally in any way by how much a fighter makes. Do you think Matt Hughes has, or ever will say "Jack Mehoff isn't making nearly enough money being a jizzmopper at the Shady Lady in Las Vegas, I heard that Rod Stiffington makes 2 times as much money being a jizzmopper at the Bearded Clam in Tokyo and it isn't fair"?
In case peopel have forgotten, pro sports have went to shit as salaries have gotten higher. Along with the increased popularity comes all the shit like fixed fights, drug scandals, etc. Maybe everyone should just be satisfied with how things are, because higher salaries aren't a guarantee to make things better.
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09-01-2006, 08:29 PM
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hey from 47 to 62, hermes and diaz both doubled their pay (considering diaz lost his last 3 fights before that) and considering franca just came back last ppv lol
however, it will always be hard to be a top athletes, if it was easy everyone would do it. sometimes you have to juggle even in normal jobs. but the reason the fighters at the top are getting paid that amount is because they kept winning and proving to be a top athletes. liddell has faught in the bottom of the card and faught everyone the UFC threw at him and won most of the time.
wrestlers who train for the olympics have to depend on sponsors and side jobs but they can do it. its hard, and it wont ever be easy. so get use to it (starting "nobody" fighters will always get paid around 2k or so, esp if they keep losing)
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09-01-2006, 08:30 PM
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#107 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Maverick84
Fedor: "I will fight against your champion Tim Slyvia for 800k of your american dollars"
Dana: "I'll give you 10k to show, and 10k to win"
Fedor: "No thank you sir."
Dana: "Do you wanna be a fuckin fighter?"
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good one, but you forget to mention what happened after the conversation, i'll post it for you:
*fedor looks angry at dana*
*dana runs away like a fucking chicking without a head, making stupid noises*
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09-01-2006, 08:36 PM
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#108 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by SmokyMtMan
No kidding. Babalu made $21,000 to fight Chuck in the title fight. Because he is a foreigner, Babalu immedialtely pays 30% to the U.S. government. That means Babalu took $14,000 back to Brazil with him. FOR A UFC TITLE FIGHT. Sad, isn't it?
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That's not sad, it's pathetic. How many times has Babalu whooped some ass in the name of the UFC ? & how many times has he won those fights? I think the fact the TUFers rival his pay says everything...
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09-01-2006, 10:00 PM
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#110 (permalink)
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UFC fighters aren't underpaid because...
UFC is starting to pay their fighters better and better now. But the thing most posters here do not realize, is that sponsorship money is very good as well. I was reading an article on Brandon Vera's career and his sponsorship actually doubled his UFC salary for one fight. He was paid 35k and ended up with 70k.
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