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Originally Posted by battery
the reason, as i explained, for the misunderstanding about the amount of the bills owing was because someone had posted that 90,000$ was their amount from victim's assistance. k. had posted that g-row was over the limit. that's why i thought it was 90,000$.
i was uncertain of when this happened because i had not spoken to k. in some time. i spoke to her after evan passed away, and then i went ot the ug and found dan's thread there when i joined to see posts about evan. after i read about it i couldn't stop thinking about it, so i wanted to help out. i posted this thread and thought that was when the incident happened. to me, getting injured like that and then having bills to pay on top if that IS a big deal.
i never said i called g-row. i said that i got an update, meaning that i had read a post on dan's thread saying that g-row was doing well. (i didn't think i would have to spell it all out like this). from what i gathered from reading the thread, g-row did go against doctor's advice and left the hospoital too early. i thought some of his bills had come from return visits due to complications from that. if i misunderstood some of what people were posting in that thread, then i am sorry for thinking hat part of the bills came from the wrong part of the incident.
i never once said that my prayers were with g-row and his family. i don't pray, and would never use that word. i said my thoughts were with them because this was the first i learned of this. when someone would post something positive, i thought it only polite to respond and say thanks for the wishes, since i started the thread.
you are making up things that i didn't say and insinuating that i was "playing along" with something. that's simply not true. i have admitted to making a couple of errors in times and amounts, and i'm sorry for that. i was just trying to help by making this thread. it was dan's own words and a kitsura link that i used to start it. just like what was on the ug.
i do hope that mike and his family are doing well. it's a struggle to get by after something like that happens. i don't care if it happened a couple of years ago and he still owes money. i'd like to try to help whenever it happened, as long as someone still needs help. if someone wants to add their well wishes because it's the first they've heard of it, they should be allowed to do so as well.
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Here we go:
"the reason, as i explained, for the misunderstanding about the amount of the bills owing was because someone had posted that 90,000$ was their amount from victim's assistance. k. had posted that g-row was over the limit. that's why i thought it was 90,000$."
*** Cool. That's why I suggested you double check because there's a HUGE difference between $90k and $13k. Was my suggestion unreasonable?
"i was uncertain of when this happened because i had not spoken to k. in some time. i spoke to her after evan passed away, and then i went ot the ug and found dan's thread there when i joined to see posts about evan. after i read about it i couldn't stop thinking about it, so i wanted to help out. i posted this thread and thought that was when the incident happened. to me, getting injured like that and then having bills to pay on top if that IS a big deal."
*** You were uncertain when this happened? Dan created that thread on 8/14 and stated in it that "Several months ago one of the friends, a guy called G-row online, was shot." What does "several months ago" mean? August minus 3 months equals May, doesn't it? YOU said "July/August" which is why I called you on it. Cool... you made a mistake there, too... but it was YOUR mistake, not mine. Do you think me pointing it out to you was unreasonable?
"i never said i called g-row."
*** You're right, you didn't. I made the assumption, therefore I apologize for having misspoken.
"i said that i got an update, meaning that i had read a post on dan's thread saying that g-row was doing well. (i didn't think i would have to spell it all out like this)."
*** Unfortunately, you do because your comment is BS:
8/14: Dan creates thread on the UG
8/15: G-Row makes this post on Dan's thread to "update" folks:
From: G_row
Posted: 8/14/08 6:11 PM
Member Since: 8/14/08
Posts: 1
Wow, thank you everyone!!
Dan and Kyria are awesome people. Too bad I can't say the same for GB. LOL Love ya bro.
I have looked in to the victims fund, and Kyria is right.
Brewster, my man, again I say thank you to you as well.
*** I have recovered very well from the shot.
It is amazing to me that people I do not even know are willing to help.
9/18: You join the UG and make this post:
From: saoirse
Posted: 29 days ago
Member Since: 9/18/08
just joined the forum, so i am seeing this for the first time. i am very sorry to hear about what happened, g-row. i hope that you are doing well, and i will pick up a shirt for sure. i wish i could help out more.
9/30: You create THIS thread
10/1: You posted THIS comment on THIS thread:
battery
checked in for an update last night and mike is doing ok, he's just had a few complications due to leaving the hospital early and going back to work too soon. he and his family looked into a victim assistance program, but mike's bills exceeded their limit. they're continuing to explore avenues for help, but this is one way a friend is trying to help out a bit.
*** THERE WERE ZERO UPDATES MADE ON THAT THREAD BETWEEN THE DATE YOU JOINED AND FIRST LEARNED ABOUT THIS (9/18) AND THE DATE YOU POSTED HERE CLAIMING YOU HAD GOTTEN ONE (10/1). In fact, there have been no updates about him AT ALL on that thread since the day you joined until now so WTF were your updates??? Even I posted a message asking for an update on the same thread and never got one. Spouting off BS that happened just over a month BEFORE you even joined the UG is NOT a freakin' update. Every bit of your "update" was already posted on that thread when you joined and you read it all then so why try to BS people here? Let me guess... another misunderstanding, right?
Now do you see how I could make the assumption that you CALLED him? Pfft!
"from what i gathered from reading the thread, g-row did go against doctor's advice and left the hospoital too early."
*** I just re-read the thread and noticed that the only comment pertaining to him leaving the hospital too early was in the form of a question I asked and never really got an answer to. So you're saying that you mistook a question I posted 6 weeks earlier (8/14) on page 2 as "update news" for this thread on 10/1???
"i thought some of his bills had come from return visits due to complications from that. if i misunderstood some of what people were posting in that thread, then i am sorry for thinking hat part of the bills came from the wrong part of the incident."
*** Cool... which is why I suggested you double-check your "facts." Do you feel my suggestion was unreasonable???
"i never once said that my prayers were with g-row and his family. i don't pray, and would never use that word."
*** I never said you did. I said that you were responding to comments made by folks (I hope he pulls through, I pray that his family is coping, I pray that he'll be OK- paraphrasing) when you ALREADY KNEW from G-ROW's OWN POST (8/14: I have recovered very well from the shot.) that he was just fine yet you didn't bother telling them when you replied to their comments. Pfft!
"i said my thoughts were with them because this was the first i learned of this. when someone would post something positive, i thought it only polite to respond and say thanks for the wishes, since i started the thread."
*** Nothing wrong with that but wouldn't it have been nice and polite for you to have also replied to the ones I just referenced with the great news that he posted on the UG that he had recovered well from the shot" on 8/14? You knew about it yet played along (by not mentioning it) and kept ttt'ing the thread to pimp shirts. Ever heard of full disclosure?
"you are making up things that i didn't say and insinuating that i was "playing along" with something. that's simply not true."
*** See my comments above.
"i have admitted to making a couple of errors in times and amounts, and i'm sorry for that. i was just trying to help by making this thread. it was dan's own words and a kitsura link that i used to start it. just like what was on the ug."
*** I understand you were trying to help but you made more than a "couple" of mistakes. Calling you out on them doesn't make ME the bad guy. Your "mistakes" were very misleading and you were responding to questions you didn't have an answer for, yet gave one. You can't blame Dan or anyone for that because all of it was there when you signed up (UG).
Post 48 didn't buy what you were selling because it didn't add up:
10-08-2008, 01:37 AM #48
Hi Tek
not to be a drag but he's already back at work? how bad are his hospital bills exactly? what REALLY happened because that summary just doesnt cut it for me.
you made it sound like his spine was broken or something.
i'd be willing to help out but i need specific details to make me want to help out, not just "he's a really good guy" because sometimes people get shot simply for being rude.
like i said i'd help out but....im not sold
Post 59 came right out and said it was a scam.
It's BS like this that causes folks to be leery when someone is asking them to give money or buy something for a "cause" throughout the online MMA community. I wasn't wrong, you were. I asked you to double-check your "facts" and you think that warrants you being a dick to me? Pfft... I don't think so.
Cindy
