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Old 11-21-2008, 10:22 AM   #41 (permalink)

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Weight cutting isnt the point. P4P means, if everyone on that list weighed the same, say all of them 200 pounds, who would be the best? P4P just means taking the weight advantage (or disadvantage) out of the picture and looking at their skills.

On that note, Alves is pretty damn good, though I would wait to see him fight for a belt before I called him top 10 P4P, but thats just me.
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Old 11-21-2008, 10:22 AM   #42 (permalink)

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this is not difficult... p4p means "how would he do comparably to other top fighters if they were the same weight" it's like fantasy mma.. does he match up with Fedor if they were to fight in the same weight class.. not meaning if he puts on that weight... but hypothetically speaking... I dig Alves.. he has made a fan out of me, but he cuts an awful lot of weight.. he probably COULD fight at LHW and doesn't.. it's not like it would affect his performance to fight at middleweight.... not to put him down, but I think it messes up the P4P nonsense in this instance...

and GSP has said he cuts from 185.. that's at least 10 more lbs than Alves... apples and oranges... Thiago almost cuts from two weight classes up.
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Old 11-21-2008, 10:30 AM   #43 (permalink)

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oops.. I meant less than Alves.
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Old 11-21-2008, 10:40 AM   #44 (permalink)

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And he's not the only big weight-cutter on the list.
Good point. I don't care how much weight fighters cut. If they can make weight, then so be it - it affects them during the fight if they are cutting too much anyway...
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Old 11-21-2008, 10:53 AM   #45 (permalink)

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Is there anyone who had a better 2008 than Thiago Alves?
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Old 11-21-2008, 10:55 AM   #46 (permalink)

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I agree.. he needs to beat Fitch (who beat him) or GSP to be on that list...
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Old 11-21-2008, 11:13 AM   #47 (permalink)

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Thiago will beat GSP
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Old 11-23-2008, 01:41 AM   #48 (permalink)

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Wait till he gets punched...
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