Thiago Alves p4p - really? - Page 4

mmashark311 · 11-21-2008, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by shiftyly

gsp cuts somewhere in the same ball park range of about 20 lbs. So, its pretty much a double standard, aint it

bingo

deboer · 11-21-2008, 10:01 AM

Why the hell not. If he can make the weight.

Phenom116 · 11-21-2008, 10:03 AM

His last three fights looked REALLY impressive to me anyway. Made it a very short night for Karo, Hughes and even Kos! I can definitely see why his name is entering into the p4p talks, but I'd really rather wait to see how he handles GSP before putting him on that list. If he wins (which I think he will) then it's a definite no-brainer.

bringbakpridefc · 11-21-2008, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Sinnaman Toast

I have no problem with him cutting weight, his loss to the 155 gatekeeper in Spencer Fisher is what makes me think he needs to do more to impress.

honestly thiago gets no respect on these forums when was that loss to fisher by the way? the guy has improved drastically in the past 2 years and as far as i am concerned the undisputer number 1 contender

he beat three top 10 welterweights in a row all very convincingly who has a better run this year than him

MrBrutal · 11-21-2008, 10:09 AM

He's certainly put together an impressive win streak... I guess the whole 3 in a row over top 10 opponents is the reason he is on the P4P list

bostone737 · 11-21-2008, 10:12 AM

I agree, the same thing goes for GSP. P4P should be more about pure skill and less about size and strength.

johnko · 11-21-2008, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by StPierreCanada

No. Not P4P. He is one of the best WW for sure, but not yet top 20 P4P IMO, but he is workingn his way up for me.

Top 20 p4p? Maybe he's on the top 40 p4p list.

LozanoJ1985 · 11-21-2008, 10:13 AM

Not yet

all4hiphop · 11-21-2008, 10:13 AM

he has to be top 10 he's knocked off 3 top 10 oppenents in his weight class. I don't think you can say that he's not top 10 p4p becuase of his weight cut. That would be like someone saying matt hughes should have fought at middleweight because he was stronger than everyone else. If Thiago or anyone can make a huge weight cut that's just more power to them, don't forget Anderson is a massive guy as well he cuts about 20-30 pounds. Back on topic he's def. earned his p4p ranking.

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Squarechoke · 11-21-2008, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by shiftyly

gsp cuts somewhere in the same ball park range of about 20 lbs. So, its pretty much a double standard, aint it

GSP walks around at about 186 lbs so no. There are several top WW's that cut more weight than he does.

In any case Alves is by far not the biggest problem. To say that Nog's overall technical and physical abilities are better than guys like Faber and Torres is not sane. P4P is about pure ability, possibly divided by your weight. HW's aren't P4P material (that would completely contradict why P4P was made) so Nog is overrated.