Thiago Alves p4p - really?

[hewsdaddy]

Originally Posted by kurdtisj

My question is how much weight is someone allowed to cut to be considered a welterweight, or any other weight class? Brock Lesnar cuts like 20 or 25 to make heavyweight...

you're allowed to cut however many more pounds than you normally weight to get to 170 to be considered a welterweight

for example.. if you weigh 175 - you would cut 5 pounds to be considered a welterwight

if you weight 320 - you have to cut 150 lbs to be considered a welterweight



wait, was this a serious question?

[Protch17]

yes, but he must win the title before being considered for P4P.

[mooseknuckle911]

Originally Posted by shiftyly

gsp cuts somewhere in the same ball park range of about 20 lbs. So, its pretty much a double standard, aint it

are you simple, i've worked out with him he cuts 8-12lbs tops

[fourfif]

Originally Posted by TPhenom01

I believe he's worthy of being a top 10 P4P fighter, his performances have been outstanding as of late and he continues to improve significantly each time he's in the Octagon.

The amount of weight he cuts to fight at welterweight isn't a factor IMO. GSP cuts around the same amount of weight as Alves does and he's an undisputed top 3 P4P fighter.

you're saying Alves > either Fedor, GSP, BJ, Silva??


yeah..... i'm gonna have to say no on that one.


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[Mystile]

Originally Posted by fourfif

you're saying Alves > either Fedor, GSP, BJ, Silva??


yeah..... i'm gonna have to say no on that one.


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how did he say that

[maccam]

These rankings are pretty solid for me. Usually I would move 3 or so fighters around for my liking. Alves is proving he is deserving i think.

[Aarevolution]

his weight is 170, therefore he's on the same bar as diego, gsp, and small ww's....his weight is 170, deal with it

he's def top 10 p4p right now

[StPierreCanada]

No. Not P4P. He is one of the best WW for sure, but not yet top 20 P4P IMO, but he is workingn his way up for me.

[Iron Hand]

Originally Posted by nprussell91

I dont think that Alves is a top fighter period. He can cut whatever weight he wants to but it is not going to help him climb the ladder for best pound for pound fighter in the world.

He IS a top fighter, knocking out Matt Hughes, TKOing Karo and dominating Koscheck....

[Xeriph]

P4P is not some literal formula where there actual weight is taken into account. It has a heavier reliance on the weight class in which they participate.