Thales Leites: "It was his obligation to finish me in the 2nd round"

[Since93]

Originally Posted by Vindication

Nate dominated him after the first round. Leites should not be proud of this win.

You are an ass. Imagine you and I are in a grappling match. Before it starts I ask you to tie your shoes. As you lean over I hit you in the head with a flying knee. You wobble but continue and i look good. Bullshit man! Adhere to the rules!

[Crowe]

A lot of things can happen in a fight that totally changes the outcome from there on out. Whether it be a nice punch to face that a guy never recovers from, or something else that has the same effect. And all af these are fine if they were done legally, you could look at the fight and say "That punch won him the fight, after that he was all over him for 2 rounds".

He was obviously rocked by that knee, and it was clearly one of those hits that effected the way the fight played out from then on.

How can people not realise that the knee had a pretty severe impact on the fight...

[Crowe]

Bah!

[Crowe]

Bah!

[Fist of Jesus]

VENGEFUL, why do you distort things????

Here is the exact quote from Mortensen:
[QUOTE\] The fact is that Thales Leites was everything but out after that knee, and that affected how he fought for the rest of the fight since he was winning the fight until that point.

The only reason he said he was OK to fight again it´s because he thought they would have given Marquadt the win. If he knew that Marquadt would be disqualified if he couldn´t continue fighting, I think he wouldn´t wanna fight because he was rocked big time.

Even though he kept on fighting Marquadt broke the rules two more times and still didn´t win. Thales moves up, Marquadt moves down, and no rematch.[QUOTE/]

I stated (anyone can go and verify this) in a smart-ass way that Mortensen could not know what he would do, in reference to Thales being too rocked after the knee and knowing that if he stopped fighting it would DQ Nate, and thats what he would do! I was in no way referring to the interview with Thales where he said he was basically too stupid to know the rules of the NSAC even after fighting under these rules several times and thats why he continued to fight. In fact I call BS on that! ...I don't think Thales is stupid, rather I think he is making excuses for his bad performance.

Either Thales has this so-called warrior spirit or he doesn't. He said in the post-fight interview that the knee was no big deal ...he said it! He had no reason to lie at that time. So if the knee was no big deal and he still would have allowed Nate to get DQed, then what kind of warrior could he be.

And secondly, not giving Nate a rematch even after Nate was deducted a point for a LEGAL elbow (thus the match would be a DRAW!), and getting his ass kicked thoroughly - also does not make Thales much of a warrior.

you people cant have it both ways.

[Fist of Jesus]

Originally Posted by Vengeful

Seems logical to me that he only said he was ok cause he thought he would have lost if he didn't.

you seriously believe that Thales thought he would lose the match after he got hit by an illegal knee ???

...the guy is not Werdum! ...Thales' english is pretty good!

He has fought several times in the UFC already. If you believe that BS than you're about as stupid as the average sherdogger, wh/ isn't too surprising.

[Vengeful]

Originally Posted by Fist of Jesus

VENGEFUL, why do you distort things????

Here is the exact quote from Mortensen:
[QUOTE\] The fact is that Thales Leites was everything but out after that knee, and that affected how he fought for the rest of the fight since he was winning the fight until that point.

The only reason he said he was OK to fight again it´s because he thought they would have given Marquadt the win. If he knew that Marquadt would be disqualified if he couldn´t continue fighting, I think he wouldn´t wanna fight because he was rocked big time.
Even though he kept on fighting Marquadt broke the rules two more times and still didn´t win. Thales moves up, Marquadt moves down, and no rematch.[QUOTE/]

I stated (anyone can go and verify this) in a smart-ass way that Mortensen could not know what he would do, in reference to Thales being too rocked after the knee and knowing that if he stopped fighting it would DQ Nate, and thats what he would do! I was in no way referring to the interview with Thales where he said he was basically too stupid to know the rules of the NSAC even after fighting under these rules several times and thats why he continued to fight. In fact I call BS on that! ...I don't think Thales is stupid, rather I think he is making excuses for his bad performance.

Either Thales has this so-called warrior spirit or he doesn't. He said in the post-fight interview that the knee was no big deal ...he said it! He had no reason to lie at that time. So if the knee was no big deal and he still would have allowed Nate to get DQed, then what kind of warrior could he be.

And secondly, not giving Nate a rematch even after Nate was deducted a point for a LEGAL elbow (thus the match would be a DRAW!), and getting his ass kicked thoroughly - also does not make Thales much of a warrior.

you people cant have it both ways.



Seems logical to me that he only said he was ok cause he thought he would have lost if he didn't.

[/quote]

Originally Posted by Leites Interview

As everybody could see that I wasn't 100% but I was saying every time, "I'm OK, I'm OK" because I didn't know what happened. I didn't see the illegal knee. I knew he did it, but I didn't see the illegal knee. I was a little bit out at that moment.

How am I distorting anything when Leites himself says he was out of it at after the knee?

You can't tell if the elbows were legal or not, Leites was hit with about 3 elbows at the moment of the deduction of the point, you could only see the last two of those. Maybe the ref saw where it landed and you didnt. In any event Marquardt still wasn't penalized for the illegal piledriver he did which would have lost a point and he still would have lost. As a matter of fact 3 point deducted fouls in one fight is automatically a disqualification. Marquardt fought a dirty fight and if he never landed the illegal knee, we really don't know how that fight would have turned out cause it definitely changed the direction of the fight. I'll even say Marquardt was winning the second round till that point but he wasn't dominating the way he did after that knee.

[Vengeful]

Originally Posted by Fist of Jesus

you seriously believe that Thales thought he would lose the match after he got hit by an illegal knee ???

...the guy is not Werdum! ...Thales' english is pretty good!

He has fought several times in the UFC already. If you believe that BS than you're about as stupid as the average sherdogger, wh/ isn't too surprising.

You're obviously more stupid than the average sherdogger since I'm only going off of the word of the fighter--a fighter that was obviously not 100% after taking a knee to the head. Look at the fight and you could see he was still wobbly when he was asked if he wanted to continue, Herb Dean could even see it, why do you think he asked for the doctor to come in? Why do you think he told Leites not to go out to fight at that moment and to take the time? Maybe you don't get the fact that when you're dazed as he was you sometimes don't think lucidly and are just following instincts.

[Colin]

Originally Posted by l'État, c'est!!

Oh, god. I HATE hearing crap like this. He talks about his warrior spirit, but wouldn't do a rematch.

Let's be honest here. Nate was working him over and if not for some silly miscalculations on Nate's part, he would have beat him and beat him decisively. He was knocked two points and still only lost a split decision.

LOL

yeah but i gotta laugh at Leites

"he did alot of illegal things to me"


he's right - Nate firstly kneed him on the head, then proceeded to supposedly hit him on the back of the head and then he tries to TOMBSTONE the poor guy. Im sure Thales was like 'WTF this guys crazy" LOL

[Fist of Jesus]

How am I distorting anything when Leites himself says he was out of it at after the knee?

You can't tell if the elbows were legal or not, Leites was hit with about 3 elbows at the moment of the deduction of the point, you could only see the last two of those. Maybe the ref saw where it landed and you didnt. In any event Marquardt still wasn't penalized for the illegal piledriver he did which would have lost a point and he still would have lost. As a matter of fact 3 point deducted fouls in one fight is automatically a disqualification. Marquardt fought a dirty fight and if he never landed the illegal knee, we really don't know how that fight would have turned out cause it definitely changed the direction of the fight. I'll even say Marquardt was winning the second round till that point but he wasn't dominating the way he did after that knee.[/quote]

did you watch the post-fight interview? ...he said the knee was no big deal. And as for the elbows, you can plainly see on replay the point of the elbow was not coming down from the top - it was coming from the side.

I think the "pile-driver" (god I hate pro-wrestling terms used in reference to MMA) is debatable. He got put on his head, whether it was intentional is up to Nate to let us know. Same goes for Dong's supposed pile-driver. I don't presume to know what fighter's are thinking or they would do. They are their own person.

And seriously, do you really think Nate is a dirty fighter? Have you seen any of his matches, including the ones in Pancrase? Thales already had one knee off the ground and was a split second from getting the second knee up as well. Nate mistimed the knee by milliseconds; this has happened to other fighters - it was a miscalculation.