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Old 03-13-2006, 03:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Stephane Patry is a weasel

A nasty breakup between a UFC title contender and his manager has occurred and the Z-Files has an exclusive interview on the development.

Speaking from his office in Montreal yesterday, TKO Major League MMA boss Stephane Patry told the Z-Files that he is severing all ties with David “The Crow” Loiseau.

Patry said the split has nothing to do with Loiseau’s loss to UFC middleweight champion Rich Franklin on Saturday night. In fact, even had Loiseau been successful, Patry was going to part ways with Loiseau.

“I am disappointed, sad and disgusted,” said a bitter Patry. “This is a business but to me it’s always been a story of love rather than a story of business. I knew one day that something like this would happen to me because it happens to everybody.

“It’s like when your girlfriend cheats on you. I’m dropping him and I’m never going to forgive him for what he did to me. Even if he’d have won the fight (against Franklin) I was going to sell his contract.”

Patry explained how his split with Loiseau came to be.

“The first hint I got that David would do something like this to me was when he first started in his career. Full Contact Fighter was supporting him a lot because Joel Gold really liked him. Joel would let him take whatever he wanted. David had $2,000 worth of clothes from them and when he made his UFC debut Joel gave him an extra $500 because he was only fighting on the undercard.

“He gave him $500 again when he fought on his first pay-per-view and then we made a deal with Full Contact Fighter and he got another $1,000.

“I showed up in Las Vegas on the Thursday before his next fight and David is running around wearing KTFO clothes. I asked him what he was doing and David said the guy from KTFO offered him more money and more later on.”

Patry eventually offered himself up as a sacrificial lamb to Full Contact Fighter for the mistake. But Full Contact Fighter didn’t believe Patry was responsible and shouldn’t have taken the blame.

“Joel went ballistic. He was so mad he almost had tears in his eyes. He was so pissed off but he knew it wasn’t my fault. He told me right then that one day David would do the same sort of thing to me. I was shocked.”

The next step in the downfall of the relationship came less than two years ago after Patry had signed Georges St. Pierre to a one-year, $70,000 US deal with BioX. The company offered Loiseau a $30,000 deal and he rejected it. Eventually Xyience stepped up and the dollar figure was negotiated to $50,000. Patry told Loiseau that he should take the deal, but Loiseau refused and the deal died.

Next thing Patry knew, Loiseau had decided to get Mykalai Kontilai, the manager of Tito Ortiz, involved in recruiting sponsors. Patry wasn’t overly concerned because as a manager, his time was better spent setting up fights rather than seeking out sponsors.

But the final nail in the coffin came only days before Loiseau was going to fight Franklin.

“I had to renew my manager’s license with the Nevada commission. They called to say that my contract with David had expired in February 2006. I tried to call David and he gave me the runaround for a whole week. The commission called again and said I had a deadline of Friday at 5 p.m. Vegas time to fax it in.

“I called David and he said he was coming to see me. I waited till 7:30 (Eastern time) and his cell was turned off. I was getting pissed off because I didn’t want to look like a joke to the commission. I called one of his trainers and he said David was at TriStar. David told me his phone wasn’t working so I waited until the end of training at 10 p.m. We drove to my office which is 35 minutes away. Once we got there David said he couldn’t sign the contract. He said that the guy that was getting him his sponsors wanted to see all his contracts.”

After that meeting, Patry figured he’d had enough of Loiseau’s tactics.

“Technically, I’m his manager until the end of his UFC contract, but I don’t want to be his manager anymore. It’s a loyalty thing. I took this kid on when he was a nobody and I overpaid to bring in fighters to Montreal so we could build him up.

“After he lost to Jorge Rivera, the UFC didn’t want him again. When the UFC called to see if Patrick Cote would fight Tito Ortiz, I negotiated all night with them. When we got the right amount of money, I said we wouldn’t sign until they got David one more fight.

“It was a big gamble – I was gambling with Patrick’s future to get David on the show. He should thank Patrick for that. I have to give David props because he won some big fights after that.”

I asked Patry if he thought the change in management had anything to do with the obvious lack of game plan Loiseau had against Franklin.

“David needs a lot of yes-men around him. After he lost to Jorge Rivera, I had him training with Victor Vargotski, an excellent muay thai coach and one of the best motivators around. During the Evan Tanner fight, David came back to his corner and one of his guys said how well he was doing. Victor said that (David) was losing the fight and that he had to pick it up.

“After the fight (which Loiseau won in the second round), David said Victor spoke meanly to him and he didn’t want to train with him anymore. Victor now trains Georges. (Against B.J. Penn) Victor didn’t know that Georges was poked in the eye and seeing double. He just told Georges that he wasn’t going to get his shot tomorrow. He had to win tonight. He motivated him.

“After the fight, I couldn’t believe what David’s people were telling him. They were saying he was a warrior, that he was awesome, that he went five rounds with the champ.

“I know David can beat Rich Franklin, but that night it was nothing but karma coming back to get David. I can look in the eyes of Georges St. Pierre, Patrick Cote, Sam Stout, Mark Hominick and Ivan Menjivar and know those guys would never do that to me.”



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Old 03-13-2006, 03:04 PM   #2 (permalink)

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how is he a weasel? From reading that it seems as Loiseau is a weasel. I'm not saying that what he is saying is true for sure, but you siad he was a weasel and showed us that.
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Old 03-13-2006, 03:10 PM   #3 (permalink)

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How is he a weasel? It sounds like Loiseau was being a pain in his ass so he's dropping him rather than letting it affect his ability to deal with his other fighters. He paints Loiseau in a bad light but comes short of bashing him and if he's telling the truth I don't see what Loiseau can say in his defense.
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Old 03-13-2006, 03:12 PM   #4 (permalink)

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how is he a weasel? From reading that it seems as Loiseau is a weasel. I'm not saying that what he is saying is true for sure, but you siad he was a weasel and showed us that.
Errrrrm, what?
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Old 03-13-2006, 03:12 PM   #5 (permalink)
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as a fighter you want a professional manager,not someone like stephane.

From what i understand UFC is pissed for stephane saying crow only got in becuase of Cote. then he talks about Karma...

Im not sure how familiar sherdog is with PAtry
but he is the last guy to talk about Karma. he has fucked over everyone in the Canadian MMA world,from Arnold Lim to his former paartners in UCC/TKO to Loiseau and Menjivar.
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Old 03-13-2006, 03:13 PM   #6 (permalink)

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Good insight on what Xyience and other companies are offering as far as sponsership money.
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Old 03-13-2006, 03:15 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Sponsrship moneys at an all time high right now.
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Old 03-13-2006, 03:16 PM   #8 (permalink)
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threadstarter has the logest intitial post i've ever seen. Can you give the Cliff's Notes so I can read it.
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Old 03-13-2006, 03:18 PM   #9 (permalink)

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Sooooo - how is Patry a weasal again? Your article left me with the exact opposite opinion
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Old 03-13-2006, 03:19 PM   #10 (permalink)

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I don't get the part where you showed he was a weasel... I'm not saying he is or isn't, I don't know enough about the management face of MMA, I'm just saying that to most people, this article will make them believe Loisseau is the weasel. Can you please offer more perspective on why patry's a weasel? Thanks.
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