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Old 01-13-2009, 09:53 AM   #51 (permalink)

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I am cheering for Coleman. He is the man.
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Old 01-13-2009, 09:54 AM   #52 (permalink)
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Shogun reminds me of Fedor in his transitions, explosive aggression and to a certain degree the way he throws punches. After that the similarities quickly end.
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Old 01-13-2009, 09:57 AM   #53 (permalink)

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not sure how ts can be so sure shogun will come back healthy enough to be the icon you remember him to be. it is that injury that casts the most doubt in my mind. it will be easier for coleman to execute his "shoot, takedown, pound" strategy at his age, than it will be for shogun to execute that high flying explosion style that he used to with that injury.
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Old 01-13-2009, 10:00 AM   #54 (permalink)

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not sure how ts can be so sure shogun will come back healthy enough to be the icon you remember him to be. it is that injury that casts the most doubt in my mind. it will be easier for coleman to execute his "shoot, takedown, pound" strategy at his age, than it will be for shogun to execute that high flying explosion style that he used to with that injury.
from the video's I've seen, his knee looks quite healthy. His kicks are sharp and crisp, and his legs look extremely well exercised and strong.
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Old 01-13-2009, 10:04 AM   #55 (permalink)
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It's posts like this that cause people to hate Shogun.

I like Shogun as a fighter, but his delusional & disrespectful fans often leave me rooting for the other guy.

Does anyone remember how the 'Forrest Griffin memorial' thread turned out? Because I recall Shogun fans talking the same shit about Forrest having no chance.
Do you recall how the "Forrest Memorial" read after Rashad was done spanking Forrest's sorry ass just like i predicted?
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Old 01-13-2009, 10:05 AM   #56 (permalink)
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shogun would kill him in pride but the watered down rules of the ufc might work in colemans favour.i think coleman takes this via lay n pray or ground and pound.
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Old 01-13-2009, 10:05 AM   #57 (permalink)

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I'm not counting out Mark Coleman, I like them both. But Coleman man is more entertaining outside the ring
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Old 01-13-2009, 10:06 AM   #58 (permalink)

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shogun would kill him in pride but the watered down rules of the ufc might work in colemans favour.i think coleman takes this via lay n pray or ground and pound.
i agree the lack of stomps and the cage help coleman, but i don't think it is enough.
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Old 01-13-2009, 10:12 AM   #59 (permalink)

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Coleman's win over Shogun wasn't a fluke he took him down and Shogun didn't defend the takedown and boom broke his arm now if Shogun had threw a high kick and broke Mark's jaw and Mark fell to the ground ref comes stops the fight Shogun fans wouldn't dispute that would they? I guess Mir breaking Tim's arm was a fluke as well.
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Old 01-13-2009, 10:12 AM   #60 (permalink)

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from the video's I've seen, his knee looks quite healthy. His kicks are sharp and crisp, and his legs look extremely well exercised and strong.
I hope you are right, but to be honest, he hasn't looked like the guy who won the 2005 MWGP since Coleman snapped his arm.

Even if he is physically the same, his mentality is different. He is no longer the go-for-broke killer that he was in 2005. He fights much more conservatively, rarely shows the trademark Chute Boxe aggression, and looks a half-step slower in everything he does on the feet. The only times I have seen him look REALLY aggressive since the elbow injury is in going for submissions and in dropping bombs in his ground & pound.
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