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Old 01-13-2009, 09:02 AM   #31 (permalink)

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Coleman wins this, I just see him taking shogun down and gnp for the win

standing shogun wins but it wont stay standing for long

This is how I see the fight going. Just last year lots of people on here were saying that Coleman would outwrestle Lesnar but now alot of those people seem to think he can't take Shogun down.

Shogun isn't Fedor and I think Coleman will be able to avoid all of his sub attempts.
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Old 01-13-2009, 09:05 AM   #32 (permalink)

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Coleman's a control wrestler, he could very well grind out a decision. Obviously Shogun is the favorite, but we don't know where either one of their heads is going to be at.
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Old 01-13-2009, 09:06 AM   #33 (permalink)

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At the odds, I think Coleman is a great bet for an upset. I am only nervous because if there was ever a fight where the fix could be in I think it's this one. I think it is pretty obvious that this is supposed to be the start up fight for Shogun to become a huge draw again. I'm not so sure the UFC would be happy with a Coleman win, and how long of a shelf life he has left. One last large payout for him might be exactly what he's looking for...
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Old 01-13-2009, 09:10 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Coleman wins this, I just see him taking shogun down and gnp for the win

standing shogun wins but it wont stay standing for long
Standing=Shogun Ko
Ground=Shogun Sub
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Old 01-13-2009, 09:12 AM   #35 (permalink)

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forrest is also a lot bigger and was better conditioned than him in that fight
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Old 01-13-2009, 09:14 AM   #36 (permalink)

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I can't understand how anyone can think Coleman can win this fight, aside from blind nuthuggery. Coleman is a one trick pony. Takedown and pound. Takedown and pound. I'll agree his takedowns were fantastic, but his 46 now. You can't say his takedowns can possibly be as good as even 5 years ago.

This fight plays out just like when he fought Fedor. Coleman will try desperately for the takedown, and will be punished everytime they break. Go find the Fedor vs Coleman 2 fight. It's out there. Go ahead, I'll wait.....

Coleman didn't even throw a punch until the second round. All that happened in the first is failed shoots, followed by uppercuts. Shogun will do the same, except he'll use knees as well. If Coleman even attempts to stand with Shogun, he'd get outboxed. Hell, half the people on here can outbox Coleman.

If Coleman does score a takedown, it will be ground and pound lead with desperation. There will be little thought behind the punches, just blind swinging to finish the fight as fast as possible, in an attempt to prove the first fight wasn't a fluke (it was) and that he still belongs in the octagon (he doesn't). Shogun will easily be able to isolate an arm and either armbar or triangle Coleman.

I predict Shogun finishes the fight in the first with a TKO if he can unload some knees early on, though I can see Shogun landing a big head kick, or sub in the second if Coleman survives that long.

And yes, that is Shogun and I in my AV. I am a fan, but don't think that is clouding my judgement. This is based on 15 years of MMA experience (both training and watching)
don't even need to read ur post, the title allready tells me that this is a cock sucking thread
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Old 01-13-2009, 09:24 AM   #37 (permalink)

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It's posts like this that cause people to hate Shogun.

I like Shogun as a fighter, but his delusional & disrespectful fans often leave me rooting for the other guy.

Does anyone remember how the 'Forrest Griffin memorial' thread turned out? Because I recall Shogun fans talking the same shit about Forrest having no chance.
Because afterall, Coleman is on the same level as Forrest LOL
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Old 01-13-2009, 09:26 AM   #38 (permalink)

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You fellas need to chill with the personal insults. This thread is about Shogun & Coleman, not your personal pissing match.
This forum would be lost without your infinite black belt wisdom

You have thousands upon thousands of posts, and haven't gotten used to the fact that people argue on here? Strange.
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Old 01-13-2009, 09:26 AM   #39 (permalink)

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Shogun has a lot to prove in the fight. You can't compare him to Fedor, because Fedor is incomparable.

I hope Shogun rises to the occasion and looks like the fighter he was in Pride.
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don't even need to read ur post, the title allready tells me that this is a cock sucking thread
good argument
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