Shogun vs. Coleman = Fedor vs. Coleman - Page 3

Immelianenkoh · 01-13-2009, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jesthebarbarian

Why, because you think you know what you're talking about. Sorry, but you just annoy me.

Wait...is that first part a question? I can't tell because you didn't use a question mark.

Anyway, i'm sorry if I annoy you little guy. Again...maybe you should just leave Sherdog quickly and stop making yourself look like a complete retard.
Go tell your family to "eat a dick" instead of message board posters who point out flaws with your moronic posts.

jesthebarbarian · 01-13-2009, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Immelianenkoh

Wait...is that first part a question? I can't tell because you didn't use a question mark.

Anyway, i'm sorry if I annoy you little guy. Again...maybe you should just leave Sherdog quickly and stop making yourself look like a complete retard.
Go tell your family to "eat a dick" instead of message board posters who point out flaws with your moronic posts.

Look, its my english teacher. Now who looks like the asshole.

Immelianenkoh · 01-13-2009, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jesthebarbarian

Look, its my english teacher. Now who looks like the asshole.

Still you. Get lost invalid.

jesthebarbarian · 01-13-2009, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Immelianenkoh

Still you. Get lost invalid.

Why are we fighting again?

noizer · 01-13-2009, 08:55 AM

[quote=xboxbman;28059937]I can't understand how anyone can think Coleman can win QUOTE]

well he did it before. freak incident, maybe but a win is a win.

Steve4192 · 01-13-2009, 08:56 AM

You fellas need to chill with the personal insults. This thread is about Shogun & Coleman, not your personal pissing match.

corrupted · 01-13-2009, 08:57 AM

Can't beleive the extremes both set of "fans" are going to. Shogun SHOULD win..Coleman COULD

with Shogun not having seen action in 2 years, and his last performance being a loss to a guy he was favoured over, no-one can say for sure if either outcome, a win or a loss, are a sure thing.

IF shogun wins, it will most likey be similar to the way Fedor did ... this doesn't make him as good as Fedor, it's just the best way ANYONE can fight Coleman

IF Coleman wins, it will most likey be GnP for 3 rounds with Shogun unable to "get off"

Just my opinion.. not certain it is THE ONE WAY TO SEE THE FIGHT.. just how i do.

sharkman · 01-13-2009, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by xboxbman

I can't understand how anyone can think Coleman can win this fight, aside from blind nuthuggery. Coleman is a one trick pony. Takedown and pound. Takedown and pound. I'll agree his takedowns were fantastic, but his 46 now. You can't say his takedowns can possibly be as good as even 5 years ago.

This fight plays out just like when he fought Fedor. Coleman will try desperately for the takedown, and will be punished everytime they break. Go find the Fedor vs Coleman 2 fight. It's out there. Go ahead, I'll wait.....

Coleman didn't even throw a punch until the second round. All that happened in the first is failed shoots, followed by uppercuts. Shogun will do the same, except he'll use knees as well. If Coleman even attempts to stand with Shogun, he'd get outboxed. Hell, half the people on here can outbox Coleman.

If Coleman does score a takedown, it will be ground and pound lead with desperation. There will be little thought behind the punches, just blind swinging to finish the fight as fast as possible, in an attempt to prove the first fight wasn't a fluke (it was) and that he still belongs in the octagon (he doesn't). Shogun will easily be able to isolate an arm and either armbar or triangle Coleman.

I predict Shogun finishes the fight in the first with a TKO if he can unload some knees early on, though I can see Shogun landing a big head kick, or sub in the second if Coleman survives that long.

And yes, that is Shogun and I in my AV. I am a fan, but don't think that is clouding my judgement. This is based on 15 years of MMA experience (both training and watching)

while I would certainly favor Shogun in this fight, your claim that this fight will be like Fedor vs Coleman is wrong. Fedor is much stronger than Shogun and has much better takedown defense-thats why Coleman couldnt take him down. The reason Shogun lost the first time round is because he was lacking some basic judo skills. No one with good judo knowledge would base out with their arm to stop a take down. Want to see how its properly done? Go watch Fedor vs Randleman. Had Fedor defended the slam like Shogun, his forearm would have snapped in two. Face it Shogun lost fair and square.
Maybe I am just annoyed because of all the bullshit we heard before the Forrest fight-and now more of the same (again for the record, i reckon Shogun will win).