Shogun vs. Coleman = Fedor vs. Coleman - Page 2

Steve4192 · 01-13-2009, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jesthebarbarian

Shogun will keep it standing and knock Coleman out.

When was the last time Shogun showed tihe ability to KO anyone on the feet?

His striking has always been sloppy, but his pace and aggression made it effective prior to snapping his arm. Since then, he has really struggled to do maintain the pace & aggression that made him famous, and as a result he has struggled in the standup department. He has turned into more of a grappling and ground & pound guy since the injury.

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Originally Posted by jesthebarbarian

Coleman at his age and after cutting to 205 won't have the gas to do anything.

Cutting to 205 is a non-issue. Coleman has been weighing in at around 225 in his most recent fights. Cutting less than 10% of bodyweight is nothing for an life-long wrestler. He can likely cut that weight just through diet and electrolyte manipulation without ever stepping into a sauna.

sirchadwick1 · 01-13-2009, 08:19 AM

Coleman is actually a good bet in this fight. He has a lot of things working in his favor.... Shogun would destroy him in Pride again, but the UFC.... well it ain't the same.

jesthebarbarian · 01-13-2009, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve4192

When was the last time Shogun showed tihe ability to KO anyone on the feet?

His striking has always been sloppy, but his pace and aggression made it effective prior to snapping his arm. Since then, he has really struggled to do maintain the pace & aggression that made him famous, and as a result he has struggled in the standup department. He has turned into more of a grappling and ground & pound guy since the injury.

Cutting to 205 is a non-issue. Coleman has been weighing in at around 225 in his most recent fights. Cutting less than 10% of bodyweight is nothing for an life-long wrestler. He can likely cut that weight just through diet and electrolyte manipulation without ever stepping into a sauna.

OK delusional fanboy.

heyheyhey · 01-13-2009, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by jesthebarbarian

OK delusional fanboy.

the man refuted all of your points and this is what you come up with?

jesthebarbarian · 01-13-2009, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by heyheyhey

the man refuted all of your points and this is what you come up with?

WOW, this is all you came up with. go eat a dick.

Immelianenkoh · 01-13-2009, 08:33 AM

Eh....get over it. If you can't understand why anyone would pick Coleman, you're an idiot. He has a win over Shogun already, and he's significantly stronger than him. Most of the people picking him are guys who still believe that good wrestling can trump all.

That being said, Shogun by fairly quick TKO hopefully.

Steve4192 · 01-13-2009, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jesthebarbarian

OK delusional fanboy.

Feel free to answer the question.

When was the last time Shogun showed the ability to KO anyone on the feet?

I'm not saying he sucks. I'm just saying that he is not the stand up demon that you seem to believe he is. He is an excellent grappler and has a knack for landing big bombs in his ground & pound, but his stand up is nothing special since returning from injury.