Sherdog's New P4P Rankings

[Jack V. Savage]

Originally Posted by lunacyfrog

Objectively, Silva, Penn, and GSP have all fought stronger competition than Fedor.

Check out mma-elo.com.

Stronger average competition, sure, but Fedor's faced more top competition than those guys.

[ChuteBox4L]

I think we should end this thread now before it becomes a nuthugging contest.

Fedor>everyone!

[poll77**]

alves should not be on the list

[MeanGene]

Though Fedor has been fed some less than top caliber fighters if you look at Silva's last two fights I wouldn't say that either guy he faced was a danger to him at all.

P4P is all about your personal view on what a P4P ranking should be based on, throw in a healthy dose of bias and you get what you get. Me personally, I would have:

1 Fedor
2 A Silva
3 GSP
4 Penn

This is of course with a slight pinch of bias, because NO ONE can truly come up with sound reasoning for the ranking's to be based one way or another when you cross fighters who are the king pins of different weight classes.

I have Fedor as number 1 because there isn't a heavy weight or a light heavy weight who I would bet money on beating him. He's also never had a shitty night inwhich he got beat by a guy who he should of breezed through (GSP/Serra and A Silva/Chonan). The guy has always proved his dominance in the ring to the extent that there isn't a single nuthugger out there who can honestly say that their favorite fighter should be ranked above him in the heavy weight division. I digress, this isn't about the heavy weights.

GSP, Penn, A Silva, and Fedor will always be a coin toss for top P4P, it just depends on who you ask.

[TheBerzerker]

pathetic.

[lunacyfrog]

Originally Posted by UFC's Pride

Penn??? who since 06 lost at WW to hughes & GSP, then dropped to LW where he beat pulver, stevenson & Sherk, sherk being the only legit top LW IMO... I can agree with GSP though...

I didnt say he should be above Fedor.

Fedor is number 2 for sure.

But he has FOUGHT tougher competition.

[Hashmonkey]

Originally Posted by lunacyfrog

Randy lost twice at LHW before going up to HW and dominating Tim and Gonzaga.

Vera was like 8-2 at HW and has looked terrible at LHW.

Franklin has a better record at LHW than at MW.

Penn has a loss and a draw at LW and 2 losses at WW yet is undefeated at MW.

Henderson took the LHW champ to a close decision and lost in 2 rounds to the MW champ.


Going down in weight does not equal easier fights.

You obviously misunderstood my reply, but thanks for clearing that up......

[UFC's Pride]

Originally Posted by lunacyfrog

I didnt say he should be above Fedor.

Fedor is number 2 for sure.

But he has FOUGHT tougher competition.

who are we talkin about GSP or Silva???

[lunacyfrog]

Originally Posted by Jack V. Savage

You read the site! Cool. Did you notice that it has Fedor No. 1 by a decent margin? I don't want to use the "F" word, but you don't succeed in convincing anyone by sending them to a site with objective ratings that contradicts your crazy point.

I have never, ever said that anyone has had a more impressive career than Fedor.

His ranking on that site supports that, and yes I think that site is awesome, thank you.

However, just because Fedor is the GOAT doesn't mean he is the current best.

You cant hold on to the top spot indefinitely fighting once a year and almost no top guys.

Lets see how he does against AA and Barnett and then we'll talk again.

[KikNRun]

the new ranking is awefull rampage? forrest? common..