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11-21-2008, 08:55 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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We can all throw out stats that fit our specific argument, when the truth about P4P rankings is recency is one of the most heavily weighted factors. Recently, GSP and Silva have done a lot more. Fedor has done more lifetime, but not recently. If Fedor destroys AA, he may move up but GSP or Penn will probably take over the P4P slot around that same time.
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11-21-2008, 08:56 AM
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 Brown Belt
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Dublin
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Originally Posted by Gunny
Franklin should be there as well. In five years his only losses are to the guy a who's number one on the list. Right now Rich is the most underrated guy in yhe sport.
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This i agree with he gets hated on because he doesn't match up well against the MW #1... I hope he shows a lot of nay sayers against Hendo...
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LHW: The Natural, Shogun, Wandy, Antonio Rogerio Nogueira, Machida
MW: Franklin, Henderson, Silva
WW: Hughes, GSP
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11-21-2008, 08:57 AM
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Brown Belt
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: NY
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Originally Posted by Cannibal Matt
Last I checked Fedor was winning the poll on the main page pretty easily.
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Last I checked, every ranking system has Anderson Silva as #1 p4p.
Also, last I checked, Silva won the open ESPN poll, not a closed poll of biased closet Pride fanboys.
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11-21-2008, 08:58 AM
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Brown Belt
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: NY
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Originally Posted by catastropie
Alot of fedors opponents were very worthy maybe you just dont know who they are??
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Objectively, Silva, Penn, and GSP have all fought stronger competition than Fedor.
Check out mma-elo.com.
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11-21-2008, 08:59 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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the list is a fucking joke
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11-21-2008, 09:01 AM
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Brown Belt
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: NY
Posts: 4,518
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Originally Posted by rymplej
We can all throw out stats that fit our specific argument, when the truth about P4P rankings is recency is one of the most heavily weighted factors. Recently, GSP and Silva have done a lot more. Fedor has done more lifetime, but not recently. If Fedor destroys AA, he may move up but GSP or Penn will probably take over the P4P slot around that same time.
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You can't argue rationally with these people.
I've tried so hard. It just doesn't work.
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11-21-2008, 09:01 AM
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Brown Belt
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Dublin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lunacyfrog
Objectively, Silva, Penn, and GSP have all fought stronger competition than Fedor.
Check out mma-elo.com.
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Penn??? who since 06 lost at WW to hughes & GSP, then dropped to LW where he beat pulver, stevenson & Sherk, sherk being the only legit top LW IMO... I can agree with GSP though...
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Fav Fighters:
HW:
Fedor, Cro-Cop, Mir, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
LHW: The Natural, Shogun, Wandy, Antonio Rogerio Nogueira, Machida
MW: Franklin, Henderson, Silva
WW: Hughes, GSP
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11-21-2008, 09:02 AM
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: On the Road
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Ranking are subjective. They don't mean a lot.
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11-21-2008, 09:03 AM
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Funklord of the USA and the Nicest Guy on Sherdog
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Slobonia
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Originally Posted by lunacyfrog
Torres' opponents have been bad.
But alot of Fedor's opponents have been terrible too.
Check out mma-elo.com.
Penn, GSP, and Anderson have all faced tougher competition objectively.
Still, Fedor should be number 2, at least until Penn/GSP is resolved.
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You read the site! Cool. Did you notice that it has Fedor No. 1 by a decent margin? I don't want to use the "F" word, but you don't succeed in convincing anyone by sending them to a site with objective ratings that contradicts your crazy point.
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Last edited by Jack V. Savage; 11-21-2008 at 09:09 AM.
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11-21-2008, 09:03 AM
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 Black Belt
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: New York City
Posts: 5,998
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CRAWFISH
I'm not one much for P4P rankings, but this new one is pretty bad. What about fighters like Kid Yamamoto, Faber, Mousasi and Eddie Alvarez. How did Rampage make the list?
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Yamamoto hasn't fought for a year, Faber just got his ass kicked, and Alvarez is on the list. I'm not sure what you are complaining about. These lists are subjective, so you can't expect to agree 100% with them.
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