[omablata]

Originally Posted by Jack's libido

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Hey I think learned that move from Chuck Liddell. Diego squeezed out a victory from his agression and willingness to fight. Alessio did nothing but stop some take downs and connected with a few jabs. The fight was close but you either give to Diego or call it a draw cause there is no way Alessio won by running around and jabbing

[Rar]

UFC judges give too much credit for aggression and takedowns, that is why this fight went to Diego (and why so many recent fights have been horrible, horrible decisions).

There needs to be credit given for defense, and more credit for EFFECTIVE aggression.

On a side note, I can't believe people are whining about this fight being boring. Defense is a hugely underrated part of MMA, and frankly I found the Sanchez-Alessio fight the best fight on the card, because Alessio's defense was great.

[Steve4192]

Search Function.

We've had a number of professional & amateur fighters chime in on this topic, and 100% of them agree that Sanchez won that fight. All three judges agree that Sanchez won that fight. Eddie Bravo had Sanchez winning that fight. With the exception of the guy who does the Sherdog pbp, I haven't heard anyone who is actually involved in MMA claim that Alessio should have won that decision.

[bcm344]

Supposedly, UFC judges are supposed to score fights first and foremost based on damage. Aggression is a PRIDE thing.

[Steve4192]

Originally Posted by bcm344

Supposedly, UFC judges are supposed to score fights first and foremost based on damage. Aggression is a PRIDE thing.

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A big steaming pile of bullshit.

[chendiesel]

the real question is... what can you do about it?

[FistOfDeath]

Should've been split decision for Diego at best. He did not try to advance, but he basically had Alessio's back, so they would never remove him from such an advantageous position normally, although I don't know if the rules anticipate a stalled out standing body triangle? Diego didn't do much well, but if Alessio had thrown even a few combinations, or maybe tried to slam Diego off of him near the end of rd 3, he would've won. He didn't do enough, that's on him.

[FistOfDeath]

And everybody just stop reminding everybody else about the search function. What the fuck do you care if 2 or more threads are started on a similar topic? Pick one, ignore the rest, and shut up.

[Cid]

Originally Posted by Mrs. Garrett

I'm very depressed to see that Sherdog posters have just shrugged their shoulders and don't seem to care about what the Sanchez fight does to USA MMA/UFC. It makes it a sham. A mockery. The WWE. This isn't the first occurence either. Just the most obvious attempt to propel a TUFer. I assume most sherdogers have been supporting UFC and MMA for a while. So it's disturbing to see the very fans, whom are almost the caretakers of the sport, turn their backs and not hold people accountable. Instead they seem to be happier to go with the flow. It's no suprise Dana White wants to be Vince McMahon. But I thought the fans would be a different story.

Anyone who tries to claim Sanchez won the fight is dead wrong. I am glad the fans in attendence realized the fight was BS.

Eddie Bravo explained it to a T when explained his score card. "The fight to me turned out perfectly. I think Diego edged out a victory". Perfectly?

Aside from the judges mockery, I am amazed Sanchez was allowed to eye gouge Allesio/hold on to the fence for 5 seconds in order to maitain his mount and escape an arm bar. I am just as amazed Sanchez was allowed to keep his mount for 3:30 without ever once trying to advance his position. He only threw punches to escape from arm bars. ONE rear naked trigg attempt within the last minute despite 3:30 with back mount? Allessio was giving Sanchez an arm bar with one hand, punching him in the face with the other and holding up their weight. What?

For those who want to attempt their BS propaganda, here is an in depth account of the fight. It doesn't do justice to the fact that Allessio was going in for the kill in the 3rd round, only to have Sanchez piggy back ride his way to a predetermined victory.

(A is Allessio, D is Diego):

ROUND 1
D - jab/Shoot (misses)
A - jab (miss)
D - jab (miss)
A - jab (miss)
D - 2 punch combo (miss)
A - jab (miss)
A - punch (miss)
A - jab (miss)
D - jab/shoot (misses)
D - 4 punch combo (misses)
A - 2 punch combo (misses)
A - punch (miss)
D- shoot (miss)
A - kimura (miss)
A - jab (miss)
D - jab (miss)
A - 2 punch combo (miss/blocked)
A - jab (miss)
A - jab (landed)
D - shoot (miss)
A - leg kick (landed)
D - 2 punch combo/shoot (misses)
A - 3 punches in clinch (landed)
A - guiletine (miss)
D - knee to body (landed)
D - 3 punch combo (miss)
D - jab (miss)
A - jab (miss)
A - jab (miss)
D - 3 punch combo (miss)
A - punch (miss)
D - jab/shoot (miss)
D - 2 punch combo (miss)
D - high knee (miss)
D - 2 punch combo (miss)
D - jab (miss)
A - 2 punch combo (miss/landed)
D - 2 punch combo (miss)
A - punch (miss)

D - offense: 29 strikes attempts 1 strike landed 0 take downs 0 submission attempts
D - defense: 2 blocked strikes 0 blocked take downs 2 escapes
A - offense: 23 strikes attempts 6 strikes landed 0 takedowns 2 submissions attempts
A - defense: 0 blocked strikes 5 blocked take downs 0 escapes

Round 2
D - jab (misses)
A - jab (landed)
D - shoot (misses)
A - jab (landed)
D - 2 jabs (misses)
A - punch (miss)
A - jab (miss)
D - shoot (takedown)
A - guiletine (miss)
A - escape
A - jab (landed)
D - jab (miss)
D - 3 punch combo (miss/blocked/landed)
A - jab (miss)
A - jab (landed)
D - shoot (miss)
A - jab (miss)
D - jab (miss)
A - jab (landed) Sanchez is cut and bleeding over right eye
A - jab (miss)
D - 3 punch combo (misses)
A - jab (miss)
A - jab (landed)
D - shoot (miss)
D - 2 jabs (misses)
A - jab (misses)
D - 2 punch combo (blocked/blocked)
A - jab (landed)
D - jab (miss)
A - jab (miss)
A - kick (miss)
D - punch (miss)
D - 2 punch combo (blocked/landed)
A - jab (landed)
A - jab (miss)
D - 2 punch combo (misses)
A - jab (miss)
A - jab (miss)
D - shoot (miss)
A - jab (miss)
D - 2 punch combo (miss)
A - punch (miss)
A - 2 punch combo (miss)
A - jab (landed)
D - 3 punch combo (misses)
A - jab (miss)
D - 2 punch combo/shoot (misses)
Diego ends round bleeding from a big cut over right eye

D - offense: 26 strikes attempts 2 strikes landed 1 take downs 0 submission attempts
D - defense: 0 blocked strikes 0 blocked take downs 1 escapes
A - offense: 26 strikes attempts 9 strikes landed 0 takedowns 1 submissions attempts
A - defense: 4 blocked strikes 5 blocked take downs 1 escapes

ROUND 3
D - jab/shoot (miss)
A - jab (landed)
A - jab (miss)
D - jab (miss)
A - jab (miss)
A - jab (miss)
D - 3 punch combo (misses)
A - jab (miss)
A - jab (miss)
A - jab (miss)
D - 2 punch combo (misses)
A - kick to head (blocked)
D - 2 punch combo (miss)
A - jab (landed)
D - shoot (miss)
A - jab (miss)
D - jab (miss)
A - high knee (landed)
A - guiletine (miss)
D - transitions into standing back mount with 3:22 left
D - weak punch to head (landed)
A - walks across ring with D on his back
D - weak punch (miss)
D - weak punch (lands)
A - arm bar for 10 seconds (miss)
D - breaks arm bar with punch (landed)
A - arm bar for 20 seconds (miss)
D - 8 weak punches brek arm bar (landed)
A - arm for 10 seconds (miss)
D - breaks arm bar with eye gauging (landed)
A - arm bar (miss)
D - breaks arm bar and keeps back mount despite losing balance by holding on to the top of the fence for 5 seconds receives warning from Mccarthy (gift)
A - arm bar (miss)
A - punch during arm bar (landed)
D - eye gaugin breaks arm bar (landed)
D - rear naked trigg (miss)
D - weak punch (landed)
D - punch (miss)
A - arm bar for 15 seconds (miss)
A - punch during arm bar (landed)
D - punch (landed)
D - escape from arm bar
D - weak punch (lands)
D - 10 weak punches in last 10 seconds of fight (looks like all are blocked)

D - offense: 35 strikes attempts 13 strike landed 0 take downs 1 submission attempts
D - defense: 1 blocked strikes 0 blocked take downs 7 escapes
A - offense: 13 strikes attempts 5 strikes landed 0 takedowns 7 submissions attempts
A - defense: 10 blocked strikes 2 blocked take downs 1 escapes

TOTALS
D - offense: 90 strikes attempts 26 strike landed 1 take downs 1 submission attempts
D - defense: 3 blocked strikes 0 blocked take downs 10 escapes
A - offense: 62 strikes attempts 20 strikes landed 0 takedowns 10 submissions attempts
A - defense: 14 blocked strikes 12 blocked take downs 2 escapes
28% accuracy for D's strikes
31% accuracy for A's strikes

You need a life.

[Lockdown]

No matter who won, shit has already been raised since Saturday. I've seen about 8 posts a day about how the decision was ass backwards, so you're a little late. Usually when people say "search function" it's a topic that goes back so far that the search function won't register it. But there have been so many topics a day concerning it, I feel very justified in saying "use the search function."

And what exactly are we to do? There have been worse decisions in the past and there will continue to be worse ones in the future until judges become MMA specific, which right now they're not. Everyone has bitched about one decision or another, INCLUDING Dana White. If him saying something isn't going to change it immeditely, than neither is us going through a blow by blow analysis of the fight. Hopefully, the judging system will change, because it is flawed, but complaining on a message board about it gets no one anywhere. If you wanna talk about how big a sham the UFC has become, stop watching it. Voice your opinion by not giving them any money. I'm tired of people complaining about how "terrible" UFC is and continuing to throw their money away on it.