Sherdog Top Ten

[seven-deuce]

Originally Posted by Bohica

So Sherk's last 5 opponants: Nick Diaz, Kenny Florian, Hermes Franca, BJ Penn, and Tyson Griffin are all chumps, but Aoki fights "the always tough" Caol Uno?

And..... Aoki "goes the distance" with JZ and Uno, yet Sherk "hasn't finished" his fights?

Also, don't forget that BJ Penn, the guy that beat Sherk "badly" also destroyed the "always tough" Uno in even more fantastic fashion.

I'm not talking about Sherk's last 5 opponents, I'm talking about his performance in 2008 which is what the ranking system should reflect. But, for the sake of argument:

- As previously mentioned, Sherk hasn't finished an opponent in 3 1/2 years
- The Diaz fight was a razor close decision (and at WW which makes it irrelevant)
- I never suggested that Franca or Griffin were "chumps"
- I did suggest that Sherk can never seem to finish an opponent and his form of "domination" is to constantly go for takedowns or box with pillow hands
- I'd like to see Sherk finish Caol Uno or JZ

Lastly, you bring up BJ Penn's KO of Uno that took place ***SEVEN*** years ago. How the hell is that relevant? And then you conveniently forget the Draw the two had a year and a half later. Anyone who says that Uno isn't an "always tough" opponent needs to reconsider how much they know about the sport.

The bottom line is that there is simply no way I can imagine Aoki not being ranked ahead of Sherk. Hell, Aoki had more fights at LW last year than Sherk has had period!

Anyway, I will stand by my statement that rankings are patently ridiculous. I will also stand by my statement that Aoki has more accolades and has had more success than Sherk at LW career-wise and 2008-wise.

[Balboa]

Originally Posted by Kick Ironed

Aoki deserves to be #1, he's 10-1-1 in 3 years, with three Top 5 wins.

Wow, could you suck Aoki's balls any harder???

Aoki would get crushed by Penn. In fact Aoki just got crushed by Hansen and got lucky the first fight with JZ was a NC.

Give me a break there is no way Aoki is #1.

[Balboa]

Originally Posted by Kick Ironed

Aoki deserves to be #1, he's 10-1-1 in 3 years, with three Top 5 wins.

Wow, could you suck Aoki's balls any harder???

Aoki would get crushed by Penn. In fact Aoki just got crushed by Hansen and got lucky the first fight with JZ was a NC.

Give me a break there is no way Aoki is #1.

[gunranger2]

Originally Posted by kila2

ok... You see Aoki as the best LW at the moment... does it mean, that You think he´s better than a present-day BJ or KenFlo???

Rankings aren't about speculation, they're about accomplishments. Do you not get that?

[Johnny Drama]

Yo TS what about............
Gilbert "MotherFucking" Melendez

[Jack V. Savage]

Originally Posted by Rhue

Theres a problem... why is sherk #2.... what has he done recently to deserve that? He lost to Penn after being over confident and could not finish Griffon.

UFC needs to make Faber come to LW... could be interesting to see how he stacks up.

Forget about what Sherk has done recently, what has he ever done to deserve a No. 2 ranking?

MMA-Elo has the top five as Aoki, Florian, Kitaoka (wrong, the system is too slow to react to guys being washed up), Sherk and Penn. JZ, Miller, Thomson, Alvarez and Gomi follow. Alvarez should be higher, Gomi should be out, Kitaoka and Sherk should be lower, imo.

[kila2]

Originally Posted by gunranger2

Rankings aren't about speculation, they're about accomplishments. Do you not get that?

that´s a question... if it were only about accomplishments, then You can pick some "nonamer" from the end of the world, who is 7-0 in 2008 and we have the best LW in the world.

[PHD_in_8_Limbs]

Originally Posted by gunranger2

Dude Nate Diaz? Over Edgar or Griffin? I like him but come on. And since when do fights on TUF count?

Yeah...I was thinking it, but then I didn't want to say it, and he said it, so I was like, "What he said."

Anyway, rankings suck <u>Insert typical response questioning your manhood, logic, and fighting abilities here.</u>

[ZaydenNTX**]

Originally Posted by Red Triangle

Then again, MMA WEEKLY - Your #1 Source for Daily MMA News, Interviews, Multimedia, and More is just laughable having Aoki, who was recently KO by Joachim Hansen over BJ Penn, and not even ranking Sean Sherk in the top ten.

Really?

I'm not sure why I'm even reading and contributing to this thread but that is horseshit!

Sherk is not even ranked!

Laughable!!!!!!

Anyway, I've pretty much stopped looking at rankings unless I really need to for some reason.

This just supports the feelings that I've developed towards rankings over the years

[grilldress]

something that puzzles me is lawler and maybe even lindland being so high on the mw rankings, i just dont think that lawler is top 5, my rankings would be more like this:

Anderson
Rich
Hendo
Okami
Marquardt
Mousasi
Lindland
Lawler
Santiago
Maia