[Gai Jin]

Originally Posted by WrestlingGuru

I would love to see a response from someone that actually works for sherdog. Let me start by saying I love the site and the forums here, but the bottom line is Sherdog needs to swallow their pride and fix this bullshit with the UFC/Dana.

If Sherdog goes out of biz tomorrow the UFC will be every bit as strong as they were, your clients will just migrate to another MMA site and be just as happy. This feud with the UFC is similar to all of us idiots arguing about bullshit here daily. What you guys are doing is serious business involving tons of potential profits for both Sherdog and the UFC, but the Sherdog big wigs instead want to argue like school children. The bottom line is UFC is bigger than Sherdog, without Zuffa purchasing the UFC Sherdog would not exist today, or would be a shitbag site without any fans, instead you are riding the coat tails of the UFC and directly getting cash put in your pocket becasue of the UFC, any other reason you tell yourself is just a fantasy.

With that said, you guys are making decent cash while being blackballed from the UFC, if you were smart you would mend your relationship with Zuffa, set your personal differences aside and put Sherdog into a position to grow leaps and bounds, and become a legitimate news outlet, this obviously would open the flood gates of cash to sherdog. You can actaully get your press credentials back, you can sponsor fighters, get sherdog.com on the ring and posts and get more fans to come to your site, and grow your exposure, instead whoever is making decisions for you guys is making a fatal error. You push buttons that not only dont make anything better for you, but actually worse. You are digging your grave with a spoon, keep doing this shit and in a few years the UFC will align themselves with a sherdog competitor and put them in a position to swallow Sherdog.

Sherdog and UFC are first and foremost BUSINESSES, everyone knows there is no room for emotions when making business decisions, which irionicly anytime Sherdog reports on the UFC business its filled with nothing but emotion, therefore giving the impression that business novices are making these decisions.

In short you guys at sherdog need to get your shit together and mend the problem with Zuffa, swallow your pride, and unlock the door to the real potential of your great site.

Sherdog being blackballed from the UFC is equivalent of ESPN being blackballed from the NFL, think about the reprecusions that would have to ESPN, why Sherdog doesnt think its a major issue for them is shocking to me.

Great points. Sherdog backed the wrong horse (Pride) to the hilt and they lost. It's time to bury the hatchet and become the premiere MMA media outlet. That doesn't happen if you're feuding with the premiere American MMA media organization.

[adidasle]

Originally Posted by Evil Homer

Well said, but intelligent, thought provoking posts and threads tend to get ignored on this board.

I will second that! Most of the children are not out of bed yet anyway.

[JimmJimma]

As a journalist and as an anti-establishment red, I back Gross and Sherdog. Sherdog for the most part is about promoting THE SPORT, not the UFC and has put the fighters ahead of the egos of the org's owners more times than not.

For all you cowardly people who think that Sherdog and Gross fucked up because now Dana's mad, all I have to say is grow some sack and learn to stick up for what you believe in.

[WrestlingGuru]

Originally Posted by JimmJimma

As a journalist and as an anti-establishment red, I back Gross and Sherdog. Sherdog for the most part is about promoting THE SPORT, not the UFC and has put the fighters ahead of the egos of the org's owners more times than not.

For all you cowardly people who think that Sherdog and Gross fucked up because now Dana's mad, all I have to say is grow some sack and learn to stick up for what you believe in.

You back gross and sherdog for what, is this a competition? i dont back either, I just see it for what it is, MMA is UFC, sherdog reports MMA therefore need to have access and a relationship with UFC. I am not suggesting they kiss ass, I am suggesting the fix the relationship, to where they get along, so Sherdog can pay UFC $$$ to advertise there, therefore sherdog gorws, its a simple concept.

I dont care that Dana is mad, and how you call someone posting their point of view cowardly is just childish as wtf do we have to be afraid of? Gross nor Sherdog is standing up for what they belive in, they are having a schoolyard fight with dana, I wouldnt be surprised if ESPN lays some smack down on sherdog for all this bullshit.

[acyron]

Originally Posted by Blackened

yeah, but these "PESKY" sites give the fans what they want, more coverage, at most ESPN would spend 30 seconds on something, while on this site, you can find hours of info, this site is what the fans want, not some lame ass weak espn coverage.

No, "PESTY". I just invented a new word.

[BDON911]

What puts you in a position to say what Sherdog should or shouldn't do?

[AlphaQup]

Is there another MMA forum that is less bias against the UFC?

[shadowsfall915]

Either way, it's not like their beef is gonna stop anyone from coming to Sherdog or from watchin' the UFC.

Like i tell my girlfriend... Mind your own fuckin' business and be happy for what you got and are given.

Sherdog provides me up to the minute news, and UFC provides me with the MMA fansites like sherdog covers. WIN WIN for me. And frankly... As a fan.. I think we're the ones that matter...

[JimmJimma]

Originally Posted by WrestlingGuru

You back gross and sherdog for what, is this a competition? i dont back either, I just see it for what it is, MMA is UFC, sherdog reports MMA therefore need to have access and a relationship with UFC. I am not suggesting they kiss ass, I am suggesting the fix the relationship, to where they get along, so Sherdog can pay UFC $$$ to advertise there, therefore sherdog gorws, its a simple concept.

I dont care that Dana is mad, and how you call someone posting their point of view cowardly is just childish as wtf do we have to be afraid of? Gross nor Sherdog is standing up for what they belive in, they are having a schoolyard fight with dana, I wouldnt be surprised if ESPN lays some smack down on sherdog for all this bullshit.

I simply feel disheartened because so many people think Sherdog should appologize. I feel like if enough people (Yahoo Sports had an article about this today) demand accountability from the UFC and rest of MMA higher ups, then this steroid problem in the industry could be alleviated.

What Gross did was provocative to say the least, but it raised a lot of eyebrows, even Dana White's to the point where he felt compelled to respond. That's powerful to touch a nerve in the man who has American MMA wholy by the balls.

I guess it depend on who or what you identify with and it's all relative. I enjoyed Gross' article and continued to feel it appropriate even after Dana fired back. This spat just may be productive.

[VenezuelanTKD]

Well, I have been on Sherdog since the old days from EZ-Board. I used to come and post a lot because there were not as many members and topics stayed on top for quite a bit, now with all these members is hard to keep up. You could come days later and the same topic would still be there.

Anyway i have seen this website grow exponentially and i even donated money to Sherdog to get a new server because the old one used to crash all the time. I even used to be one of the moderators on the old days.

I don't buy as much MMA stuff anymore but i am pretty sure with more members Sherdog is getting more money in advertising plus selling goodies.

I don't think Sherdog should kiss UFC's ass and he should stay independent. The site has grown in despite of the "bad blood" with the UFC.