[oldschoolnewb]

Takedowns should be scored if they are used as a means to an end (gnp/sub attempts), but they should be considered stalling if they are merely used for LNP. As far as the knee to the face thing, how many times have we seen a fighter avoid punishment by staying on his knees after a failed shot? UFC rules definitely favor wrestlers but everyone who gets in the cage understands that.

[Cat_Smasher]

Takedowns are a big part of a fight , atleast in the judges eyes , the person on top 99% of the time has the advantage ( in the judges eyes ) .... controllling the fight and octagon conrtrol and what not , i think a takedown is just as good as a strike

[SakuNuthugger]

Offense should always score more than defense. If sprawls counts for as much as a takedown it would logically mean that a slipped punch would count for as much as one that connects...

[Wu-Chang]

Originally Posted by MMAGenius

Like Thousands of others I was a high-school wrestler, I thought points for takedowns then were lame, for me it was pin to win that's it. Now MMA fights are being decided on takedowns....WHAT!!! If fighters are getting points for takedowns, then great stand-up men need to get points for every sprawl and clinch that prevents the takedown. I understand the judge have to find some hard criteria to judge a fight on, but the way takedowns seem to control the ruling and commentating lately, I have to say I've seen enough..

i.e. PENN vs. St. Pierre... love beating the newest dead horse

Um, did you wrestle with athletes or just your band geek buddies?