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05-14-2009, 01:31 PM
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#21 (permalink)
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"Sherdog's reporting on the matter was based upon a diligent and thorough investigation consistent with the highest journalistic standards, and the referenced information was obtained directly from police sources named in the story."
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05-14-2009, 01:36 PM
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#22 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by forza
you jackass, when you are a journalist you have to dig deep into information to make sure what you are not hearing is a lie. A journalist makes his or her job nothing but being as nosy as they can be about whatever subject they are going to be writing about.
To say 'come on guise it was a error' is just god damn stupid. Whoever the dumb ass is that wrote that original article rightfully should get a lot of criticism for being such a retard.
But hey, if all journalists posted erroneous reports, such as you say, due to false information or whatever the case it, we'd all be living in a world of fake information. It'd be like waking up and watching the onion on tv. You are a shithead. Plain and simple.
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05-14-2009, 01:38 PM
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#23 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by JCVD<3Fedor
Yeah i forgot about that...
That sort of makes it even worse, assuming the guy properly detoxed and hasn't done it since...
I mean yeah doing that shit is a mistake, but being profiled (or at least falsely accused) as an addict (after quitting) is probably one of the worst low blows a person can use.
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So, let me get this straight:
You get mad about them saying it was meth when you "assume" that he was clean and "hasn't done it since." Sherdog spoke to someone with the police who gave them the wrong information.
You're right, people make mistakes. But if you're going to get all hyperbolic and basically present it as Sherdog crucifying Kimo and presenting him as some kind of martyr (by the way, legalization debate aside, pot is illegal, so where the fuck is your outrage for decency there?), shouldn't you be willing to let Sherdog's mistake go as well as Kimo's?
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05-14-2009, 01:38 PM
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#24 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Makhno
"Sherdog's reporting on the matter was based upon a diligent and thorough investigation consistent with the highest journalistic standards, and the referenced information was obtained directly from police sources named in the story."
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very competent and diligent thorough investigation indeed, amazing police source too.
i don't see how that ends the thread though, as basically the thread states that their sources suck and that they do not investigate the reports thoroughly enough before posting them...
but i'm sure them saying that they "have done the best they could" makes it alright...
thanks for nothing though i guess...
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05-14-2009, 01:43 PM
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#25 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by vIANv
So, let me get this straight:
You get mad about them saying it was meth when you "assume" that he was clean and "hasn't done it since." Sherdog spoke to someone with the police who gave them the wrong information.
You're right, people make mistakes. But if you're going to get all hyperbolic and basically present it as Sherdog crucifying Kimo and presenting him as some kind of martyr (by the way, legalization debate aside, pot is illegal, so where the fuck is your outrage for decency there?), shouldn't you be willing to let Sherdog's mistake go as well as Kimo's?
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My outrage and decency has nothing to do with the legality of either substance, it has to do with the actual substances themselves.
And no, in no way do i see him as a martyr, I just see him as a great excuse to bash the solid journalistic cred that sherdog has apparently earned.
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05-14-2009, 01:45 PM
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#26 (permalink)
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HELLO?! is anyone out there? Kimo gets caught with METH, had the drug in his system, has a stolen police uniform in his car, and its not actually his car... then a few months later, "it was only weed."
No one makes that mistake. The UFC's lawyer probably got his hands on this case and reduced the charges for their former fighter, therefore causing all reporting on the subject prior to the new verdict to be incorrect, and in need of edits and appologies. Despite the naysayers, Dana and the UFC would do almost anything to keep a positive report with the public about their fighters and business in general.
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05-14-2009, 01:47 PM
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#27 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JCVD<3Fedor
very competent and diligent thorough investigation indeed, amazing police source too.
i don't see how that ends the thread though, as basically the thread states that their sources suck and that they do not investigate the reports thoroughly enough before posting them...
but i'm sure them saying that they "have done the best they could" makes it alright...
thanks for nothing though i guess...
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No, the fact that they got the erroneous information from the police means that they did all they could to verify what they were reporting. Where else should they have gotten information? The police said they were charging him with possession of meth. . . who would know better than them? Perhaps you should be creating a thread bashing the cops for issuing false reports than the journalists who simple quoted what they said.
And no one said it was alright. It sucks that Kimo's reputation was so trashed by this, but you are blaming the wrong people. I guarantee you that if this were in a court of law, it would be the police department on trial, not Sherdog.
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05-14-2009, 01:49 PM
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Sherdog's 'journalism' is a fucking EMBARASSMENT.
Hunt should have never been hired. She should be cleaning motel rooms somewhere.
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05-14-2009, 01:50 PM
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#29 (permalink)
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I thought Sherdog was just a place where internet MMA wizards bicker on a forum.
Didn't know that journalism was associated with this site.
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05-14-2009, 01:56 PM
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#30 (permalink)
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By the way, here is a quote from the original article:
"UFC veteran Kimo Leopoldo was arrested on Monday for two felony charges of possession of a controlled substance and possession of stolen property, and a misdemeanor charge of possession of drug paraphernalia, according to Sgt. Jon Cartwright of the Tustin Police Dept. in Tustin, Calif. The stolen property was identified as a police uniform."
So, see, it wasn't Sherdog who was making this claim, but Sgt. Jon Cartwright. The article goes on to quote a Sgt. Blair as well. This reporting was completely consistent with standard journalistic processes. At no point in the article does Hunt make any claims not put forth by the police.
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