Ring or OCTAGON for MMA?

z3r0 · 03:02 PM

I have heard a lot of whining by the Pride nuthuggers about this issue!
I would like to hear some VALID reasons why they would prefer this.

Why in the hell would you want to see a BOXING ring used for MMA? That is about as stupid as a football team wanting to use a basketball court to play football on.

-The Ring causes way to many "Breaks" in the fights which in turn changes momentum.
-The Ring also causes people to get caught up in it and often renders a fighter unable to defend them self.
-The Ring has absolutely no advantages over the octagon in any manner.

-No one has ever gotten tangled up in the Octagon.
-No one has ever fell out of the Octagon.
-They do not have to stop the Fight and move people to the center of the Octagon because the cage is interfering with the fighters.
-The cage does add a new dimension to MMA as you can literally have your back up against the wall and fight your way out of it.
-You can pin your opponent up against the cage and GNP try this in ring and you get stopped your opponent gets a chance to recover.

Face it you are ignorant if you prefer the ring over the octagon.
The OCTAGON is by far the superior place for MMA fights

Juddy J · 04-04-2007, 02:40 PM

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-You can pin your oponent up against the cage and GNP try this in ring and you get stopped your oponent gets a chance to recover.

This is the disadvantage of the cage. This coupled with no knees to a downed opponent give a large advantage to a grappler for LNP. A pure wrestler can control the fight with little else but repeated takedown attemps with no consequence for a missed TD. If you LOVE grappling then you are dead on. If you like a good mix of grappling and striking then the ring is better in some regard.

DiehardMMAFan · 04-04-2007, 02:41 PM

Neither.

CIRCULAR CAGE

xxlbeerZ · 02:49 PM

The cage is better for MMA in general, saying otherwise defies common sense.

Your reasons for the cage's superiority correct, but there a couple of disadvantages.

-The ring has better visibility
-The ring looks more professional and less barbaric.

I believe the cage is better, but it could use a redesign to make it better.

Salmonella · 04-04-2007, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DiehardMMAFan

Neither.

CIRCULAR CAGE

Not a bad idea. I also like the idea of a plexiglass octagon. If you have ever been to a live UFC event, you will know what I'm talking about.

ChipTijuana · 04-04-2007, 02:48 PM

No knees has nothing to do with this arguement.

He's talking about the structures.

I prefer the Octagon. It's larger, allows more movement, no one gets tangled, it doesn't require re-starts in the middle, and it can be used to a fighter's advantage.

Now, some people say that fighters who are using the cage have an unfair advantage. But, that's not true. It's the other fighter's responsibility to learn how to counter the use of the cage.

Stupid fan · 04-04-2007, 02:50 PM

Open mat, no ropes or fences. Fighters wear those collars dogs wear when their owners install invisible fences. Everybody wins.

Oh, were we trying to be serious here? If we were, we should have joined one of the 7000 other threads on this topic.

z3r0 · 04-04-2007, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Juddy J

This is the disadvantage of the cage. This coupled with no knees to a downed opponent give a large advantage to a grappler for LNP. A pure wrestler can control the fight with little else but repeated takedown attemps with no consequence for a missed TD. If you LOVE grappling then you are dead on. If you like a good mix of grappling and striking then the ring is better in some regard.

Dude you can knee a downed oponent just not in the head. This is a rule for a damn good reason.

Juddy J · 04-04-2007, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ChipTijuana

No knees has nothing to do with this arguement.

He's talking about the structures.

I prefer the Octagon. It's larger, allows more movement, no one gets tangled, it doesn't require re-starts in the middle, and it can be used to a fighter's advantage.

Now, some people say that fighters who are using the cage have an unfair advantage. But, that's not true. It's the other fighter's responsibility to learn how to counter the use of the cage.

I didn't say unfair advantage...just advantage. Also, the cage coupled with no knees is relevant. If a grappler with little other skills shoots a TD and is unsuccessful he can just keep attempting with no recourse...basically just pushing the opponent into the cage. Also, if you'vej ever been to a fight live the ring is much easier to see the action. Overall I like the cage more but wanted to show that there are some negatives to it.

z3r0 · 04-04-2007, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Juddy J

I didn't say unfair advantage...just advantage. Also, the cage coupled with no knees is relevant. If a grappler with little other skills shoots a TD and is unsuccessful he can just keep attempting with no recourse...basically just pushing the opponent into the cage. Also, if you'vej ever been to a fight live the ring is much easier to see the action. Overall I like the cage more but wanted to show that there are some negatives to it.

no shit dick tracy the guy on top will usually have an advantage reguardless of where the fight is. The whole visibility thing is horseshit.