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07-22-2007, 03:59 PM
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Really Cool artile about MMA vs Boxing
Here is an article I found on a really cool underground website called the Irish Whip http://irishwhip.blogspot.com/2007/0...d-for-mma.html. It is funny because its true....what do you guys think?
Society Geared towards MMA by Doug MacEwan
As an avid fan of both boxing and MMA I have taken notice of all the different theories as to why MMA has replaced boxing as the most popular combat sport in the world. On the surface you hear the talk of the rampant corruption in boxing turning long time fans away, but wasn’t it Don King who promoted “The Rumble in the Jungle” during boxing’s golden age? And furthermore isn’t it the Ultimate Fighting Championship, undoubtedly MMA’s most popular organization, that is run by two casino owners with alleged connections to the New Orleans mob?
I have also listened to many an argument about the apparent brutality of MMA drawing today’s blood thirsty masses away from the more sterilized boxing environment, but anyone who has watched Gatti vs. Ward or Corrales vs. Castillo 1 can tell you that there is plenty if not more violence over the course of a twelve round boxing match as compared to a three or five round MMA fight. This theory is supported by the fact that no MMA athlete has ever died as a result of fight related injuries while boxing produces unfortunate deaths year after year.
So why are we tuning into MMA and tuning out the “sweet science”? The answer suddenly came to me this morning as I was checking my email on my new i phone while watching old UFC clips on youtube while using tivo to fast forwarding through lulls in action in last nights fight between Bernard Hopkins and Ronald “Winkie” Wright . We have become an instant gratification society that wants their e-mail, their coffee, their television, and especially their knockouts RIGHT NOW!!! We move so fast these days that we find a twelve round chess matches between two boxers (no matter the skill level) to be boring. We are so over stimulated these days that we can only commit all of our focus on one fight for about ten minutes before we get up to check our myspace or fast forward to the next fight. The UFC, and MMA in general, is much better geared to entertain our society where stimulation of all shapes forms and sizes is bombarding from every direction. We don’t have time to wait for boxers to feel each other out for three rounds…..we want to see a high kick to the head in the first three minutes so we can respond to all twenty text messages before the next fight starts. Even UFC fans constantly boo the fighters when they lock up on the ground fighting for better positioning to sink in a tight submission.
I realize how oversimplified my explanation is, but you can’t deny the facts….we want action and we want it now. From the day TIVO came out and gave the viewer the ability to fast forward through commercials our society changed. I still love boxing and will continue to fork over $50 for the big PPV events, but I don’t see the trend of MMA being the premier contact sport ever changing, and it would not surprise me if it was absorbed into MMA altogether some day. The truth is twelve rounds of chess like action no longer fits with main stream society, and I am surprised it has taken the likes of HBO and ESPN so long to hop on board with MMA. I think an ex girlfriend summed it up best as she was breaking up with me: “you’re like a little puppy that stops playing with one ball as soon as another ball come racing across the floor….” and even though her comment had nothing to do with boxing or MMA, I kept hearing that over and over in my head as I paused the Hopkins Wright fight ten at least times to check if I could find a particular highlight of last years PRIDE “Open Weight Grand Prix”.
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07-22-2007, 04:00 PM
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07-22-2007, 04:00 PM
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this is definately worth reading.....
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07-22-2007, 04:07 PM
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my favorite part is at the end...."you’re like a little puppy that stops playing with one ball as soon as another ball come racing across the floor….”
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07-22-2007, 04:13 PM
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amybe the article is too long for anyone to look at.....it is pretty interesting.
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07-22-2007, 04:14 PM
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i read it, yea i agree, he doesnt say anything that isnt true
but i'm not one of those fans whos all about the quick action/knock out and violence
i think most of main stream society is and that that is why they watch it to start out with and why its growing so fast and becoming so popular
but i like the amazing skill, and i think that the "sweet science" of mma is for more complex and...scientific then boxing and that it requiers even more skill and is more chess like
at least with most skilled fighters who have devoted most of there lives to the sport and are at the top of the weight class
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07-22-2007, 04:15 PM
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Honestly, I'm sure he's right on some level...casual fans who only tune in for the blood and action will want insta-KO's every time. But the same goes for boxing, really. I enjoy a good boxing/kickboxing KO as much as an MMA one.
I think it has more to do with a) on a subconscious level, MMA represents more of a "real fight" to most people. Plenty of people who've witnessed or been in fights know that not everyone is a witch with their hands, but might be strong grapplers, as well as the fact that a lot of real life fights do go to the ground and are settled on terms entirely different than your standard boxing match.
Secondly, b) MMA is much more accessable at the moment. Its far easier to find quality MMA both with regularity, and for free, now, than it has been for boxing in literally decades. Boxing so distanced itself from its audience (casual fight fans and working class people who don't want to buy HBO/Showtime or PPV just to see a decent fight), that MMA swooped in to fill the void.
The "instant-gratification" angle can really only be argued selectively, as much of MMA involves tactics and submissions which can be equally as time consuming and perceivably "boring" as a highly technical boxing match. And how many people were delighted by the "instant gratification" of Rampage KO'ing Chuck halfway through the first round? Most casual fans were disappointed, in fact. So I think his argument has some flaws, to be sure..
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07-22-2007, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Nedders
Honestly, I'm sure he's right on some level...casual fans who only tune in for the blood and action will want insta-KO's every time. But the same goes for boxing, really. I enjoy a good boxing/kickboxing KO as much as an MMA one.
I think it has more to do with a) on a subconscious level, MMA represents more of a "real fight" to most people. Plenty of people who've witnessed or been in fights know that not everyone is a witch with their hands, but might be strong grapplers, as well as the fact that a lot of real life fights do go to the ground and are settled on terms entirely different than your standard boxing match.
Secondly, b) MMA is much more accessable at the moment. Its far easier to find quality MMA both with regularity, and for free, now, than it has been for boxing in literally decades. Boxing so distanced itself from its audience (casual fight fans and working class people who don't want to buy HBO/Showtime or PPV just to see a decent fight), that MMA swooped in to fill the void.
The "instant-gratification" angle can really only be argued selectively, as much of MMA involves tactics and submissions which can be equally as time consuming and perceivably "boring" as a highly technical boxing match. And how many people were delighted by the "instant gratification" of Rampage KO'ing Chuck halfway through the first round? Most casual fans were disappointed, in fact. So I think his argument has some flaws, to be sure..
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I totally agree with you but I think that for the casual fan boxing moves too slow. You get more variety and more action in an MMA fight which appeals to our "fast food nation"
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07-22-2007, 04:26 PM
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I totally agree with you but I think that for the casual fan boxing moves too slow. You get more variety and more action in an MMA fight which appeals to our "fast food nation"
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Again, "more variety and more action" is subjective and depends on the fight. Ever see Shamrock vs Severn? I think because you're seeing so much MMA on TV nowadays, you're gonna see a lot more action because its so accessable. With boxing, most people only see a couple big fights (and presumably their undercards) a year at best, and more often than not titleholders fight too smart to come out throwing bombs.
I think it also speaks to boxings limitations in terms of what is perceived as "action". "Action" for a boxer basically entails letting his hands go and wailing on his opponents, whereas an MMA fighter can shoot for the takedown, work for a sub, strike with hands or feet etc. So on that level I certainly agree wtih you.
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07-22-2007, 04:27 PM
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agreed
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