Rampage/Dana Discussion: Merged threads

ShamrockCamp · 02-21-2006, 05:31 PM

Just by hearing what he's said in past interviews, in sherdog's current interview, and in what he's said repetitively over and over and over again when aasked if he's going to the UFC. It's pretty much cut and clear and obvious that he isn't and probably won't ever come to the UFC. And anyone who thinks otherwise is just wishfull thinking or in denial.

When asked about what he'd think of coming to the ufc, he talking about:

-Job Security, and the lack of it in the UFC. ANd how he would rather stay fighting in Pride.

When DiSantis asked Rampage what he'd do if Pride offered him the exact same contract that he currently has and if the UFC offered a slightly less pay with a title shot at chuck.

"What does a title mean to you rampage?"

QJ: "Zero, what the hell is a title going to do, is a title going to put clothes on my kids? Less money?"

QJ: "If Pride offered me more money, I'd stay in Japan. When you really think about it....pay in Japan has no taxes"

-That's a pretty damn big deal. First of all, I highly doubt the UFC would pay QJ anything near what he gets paid in Pride (which is probably most likely in the healthy 6-digits over a handfull of fights).

I mean, people can argue that "Oh but Chuck and Couture got paid 6-figures for their fights" But you have to consider just HOW FEW fighters in the ufc get paid that much. Only a handfull, not even the champions of their lesser weight classes get paid 6 figures (maybe once or twice).

Pride not only pays more in general and on average to their fighters, you have people making obscene amounts of money (i.e. Ogawa vs Yoshida, Wanderlei vs Mark Hunt, Fedor vs Cro-Cop). Even with QJ making it to the finals in the 2003 GP and headlining Pride 28, he most likely made a damn-good pay check from that, something else I doubt the UFC would be willing to offer, let alone be able to pay QJ.

THirdly, NO TAXES on payments in Japan. That's HUGE. Compared to what, a good 35-40% pay cut for the UFC salaries (in the upper brackets). If anything, QJ would take advantage of the tax nullment, and go ahead and go to K-1 before going to the UFC. Even K-1 would pay more than the UFC.

QJ: "Even K-1 is sounding good to me"

QJ: "The thing about the UFC is.....Xyience has a lock-down on the sponsors. If that's t rue than that's going to keep me from even going to the UFC"

-It is pretty much a fact now that Xyience has a sponsor monopoly over the UFC. After the incident with Matt Lindland, Punishment Athletics, and Diego Sanchez's post-fight interview with Joe Rogan, it's obvious that fighter sponsorship is under a very strict regulation in the UFC. Just watch any of the recent UFC events over the past 3 years and you see the progression of controll over sponsoership that Xyience has sprawled across. Nowadays those are the only commercials you see. It's in the center of the Octagons on occasions, and that's the only thing coming out of fighter's mouths.

QJ: "If Chuck wants a rematch, he's going to have to come all the way back over to Japan"

QJ: "I don't really even NEED Chuck."

-You can't really put it any more straightforward than that.

J_C · 02-21-2006, 05:35 PM

Hahaha rampage what! UFC is garbage when compared to Pride in terms of talent, rules and management, so yea hopefully he stays in pride. It would be a waste to see him fight lesser fighters in a lesser promotion.

Oh yea the UFC belt doesnt mean shit, considering they only hire good fighters if they will fight for shit money

chado · 02-21-2006, 05:37 PM

Good thread, i didnt think he was coming. Not enough dizzo, plus he would have to fight tito too
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Envy · 02-21-2006, 05:42 PM

If he gets dropped by Pride, which seems likely, then it's either the UFC or watch your career fall by the wayside.

Look at what a great decision it was for Herring to turn down the UFC and go to K-1.

Lethal_Striker · 02-21-2006, 05:44 PM

It appears that Rampage is just using UFC as leverage in his negotiations with DSE.

J_C · 02-21-2006, 05:45 PM

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Look at what a great decision it was for Herring to turn down the UFC and go to K-1.
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haha it definitely was a great career move considering he makes more money in one fight than he would in 3 years in the ufc

Glen Quagmire · 02-21-2006, 05:46 PM

With the money Pride pays and the Japanese tail he must get on a regular basis ... why the fuck would he want to come here?

ShamrockCamp · 02-21-2006, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Envy

If he gets dropped by Pride, which seems likely, the it's UFC or watch your career fall by the wayside.

Look at what a great decision it was for Herring to turn down the UFC and go to K-1.

Wow did you even read my thread?

WHy would he get dropped by pride when they're matching him up with a can? Can's serve one purpose, it's to make big names look BETTER. And with Rampage most likely beating the crap out of Dong Sik, Pride isn't going to "drop" someone whose just won a fight. Let alone someone who has an established history of prosper with the organization. Pride isn't like the UFC where they drop long-time fighters after a victory. Common man.