*** Proper Translation of Lyoto's Machida : "Quinton won the fight" Interview ***

[ColdNorthWind]

Thanks for posting this. Machida is a man of honor before and after fights, I remember how respectful he was to Ortiz. Guys like that don't talk like punks. Machida's earned the benefit of doubt.

Damn, now I gotta get back on his nuts, do you know how hard that is to do?

WAR MACHIDA!!!!!!

[imaycare]

Whiloe your translation is correct. Lyoto basically said that there passing him over for a title shot and giving it to Chuck because of Chuck being more marketable. Lyoto knows he is being passed over for a title fight and basically called the UFC out on it.

[Powerofmonkey]

Awesome clarification. +1 for the TS

[Shaolin Bushido]

Originally Posted by Interesting

Im brazilian and I speak both english and portuguese, so I can give another take on the matter.

I just saw the other thread: Lyoto Machida : "Quinton won the fight" and I couldnt help it, but feel that it was badly translated, I thought about repplying on it in the middle of those 40 pages but... now the damage has been made.

The TS translated it like "I think UFC gave the win to Forrest because the UFC want Chuck to be the next champion" when in reality it wasnt what Machida said. The TS created a link of cause and consequence that clearly doesnt exist in the original portuguese quote.

When you read what the TS of the other topic translated, the guy cuts 4 sentences into 3 sentences and does so implying that Machida said that UFC rigged the decision just so they could give the title shot to Liddell.

I will go straight to the main point.

Machida said in portuguese:
"Olha, para mim o Quinton ganhou do Forrest, mas deram para o Forrest.
Acho que agora eles casam a luta com o Chuck Liddell para ele levar o título.
Acho que eles querem que o Liddell fique com o título, é um ex-campeão, tem mais marketing e vende mais”

wich translates in english to:

"Look, to me Quinton won (the fight against) Forrest, but they (the judges) gave (the decision victory) to Forrest.
And now I think that they will settle the (title) fight with Chuck Liddell (next) ,for him to take the title. I feel that they want Liddel to stay with the title (in the end), he is an ex-champion, he has more marketing and sells more"

He is not implying that UFC rigged the decision and gave the title to Forrest as the TS of the other thread made it look like.

Machida is just saying that he doesnt agree with the judges. Thats the first sentence.
THEN he proceeds to analize whats next based on the result of the fight!

He said that since Forrest won, they will likelly to give the next title shot to Chuck Liddell, for the obvious reasons: Chuck is an ex-champion, more popular, sells more.

Preciate it. Please post more.

[DoomsdayFAN]

Well, who is Lyoto fighting next?

[Rice Eater]

Originally Posted by DoomsdayFAN

Well, who is Lyoto fighting next?

The new rumors point to Thiago Silva, although Rampage is a possibility.

[Striker22 redo]

Its probably true. Nice fix. But people need to understand that the jug=dges dont work for the UFC. Even if Rampage did win, it was the slightest of margins--And personally I think he lost, Forrest pushed the pace way more.

[Rainman101]

its basically the same damn thing. Machida is calling bullshit anyway you look at it. you're just trying to make him look more "classier" in this one.

[natyong]

Originally Posted by Terere

I admit I had little time to translate and I may have commited mistakes. But "cause and consequence"? those are little details that you would expect out of a professional. I can edit it later, but moderators take action on me because of little fucking details? ok sherdog police

Don't worry about it dude. Seriously I blame all the idiots in both these threads. In your thread they overreact to a obviously flawed translation in that both your grammar and spelling were off. In this thread they automatically call an intentional foul for something you clearly didn't do. It isn't that hard to do a search of your post and find out that English isn't your first language. It's always easier to blame our own ignorance on the erroneous stupidity of others. To tell the truth when I saw your thread title and all the posts in in I didn't even try to read it as I already knew something was up.

It's these types of people that make this post necessary. Your original thread is a good find and thanks for sharing. Thanks to both of you for your good posts.

[natyong]

Originally Posted by imaycare

Whiloe your translation is correct. Lyoto basically said that there passing him over for a title shot and giving it to Chuck because of Chuck being more marketable. Lyoto knows he is being passed over for a title fight and basically called the UFC out on it.

Are you paraphrasing the correction of the translation that was a paraphrase translation or do you know Portuguese also and are just paraphrasing clarification of the corrected translation?

Damn I don't know what I'm asking anymore!