[CroCopKick]

Since everyone seems to be making threads about Steroids specifically I just had to bring this one up. Steroids are old news, some of you people are back in the 80's if you think everyone is on Steroids in today current Athletic Scene. IE. Barry Bonds, who although still debated almost certainly used performance enhancers and still passed drugs tests.... So the drug testing did not prevent him from taking Performance Enhancers that were illegal!?!?! So how can you say with any logic that UFC fighters dont take illegal performance enhancers and all Pride Fighters do?!?!?!


More than likely this is the case---- http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2516493

"Commissioner Bud Selig believes that Major League Baseball has done an effective job of getting steroid use under control. He calls the drug policy currently in place "the toughest program in American sports today."

Selig concedes that human growth hormone remains an issue, largely because no credible test exists to detect it. That applies to all professional sports -- not only baseball.

While owners and the union negotiated amphetamines into the game's new drug agreement in November, Selig admits that the process of stamping out amphetamine use will require vigilance. He has spoken with numerous doctors, trainers and other medical professionals, and they've expressed concern about the newer forms of designer amphetamines available.

"The doctors and trainers expressed more concern about this than anything else," Selig said. "One of them told me, 'If you don't do something about this, somebody is going to die.'

"Amphetamine testing is working. We're going to change the habits of a lot of people. But we need to stay ahead of the curve. The technology is exploding, and there are other things to come -- there's no question about it. There's no use deluding yourself."

• The commissioner said his medical advisers told him they don't think use of human growth hormone is rampant -- that they'd be "shocked" if more than one or two players on a team are using it.

• Selig looked into the possibility of storing players' urine and blood samples for a future date, when an HGH test is developed. But he said his medical advisers told him, "Don't waste your time. It's not stable."

Technology will always be ahead of the curve so dont be suprised if more fighters in the UFC are using than you think, even the pair of fighters who were tested by the commission!

[CroCopKick]

Nobody can say without a dout that any fighter in any org. is not using performance enhancers even when drug testing is applied.

[Mr. KiLo]

Originally Posted by CroCopKick

Nobody can say without a dout that any fighter in any org. is not using performance enhancers even when drug testing is applied.

There are ALWAYS ways around any kind of performance enhancing drug test.

[CroCopKick]

Originally Posted by Mr. KiLo

There are ALWAYS ways around any kind of performance enhancing drug test.

Exactly!!!! Im just tired of everyone trying to say so and so fighter is on this drug from back in the day blah blah blah.... If any fighters have personal trainers you can almost bet they will give them the best enhancements and do what it takes to keep them safe and make sure they pass their drug tests just like Bonds trainer did

Threads like this are getting old
PrideFC fighters to get *REAL* drug testing in USA fights! -- Although real means "Commissioner Bud Selig believes that Major League Baseball has done an effective job of getting steroid use under control. He calls the drug policy currently in place "the toughest program in American sports today."

Selig concedes that human growth hormone remains an issue, largely because no credible test exists to detect it. That applies to all professional sports -- not only baseball.

[Midnight Cougar]

I don't see the big deal....Steroids never gave anyone talent......

[CroCopKick]

Originally Posted by Midnight Cougar

I don't see the big deal....Steroids never gave anyone talent......

Agreed but it seems to be a big deal right now with the Pride coming to America thing and the fact that everyone thinks UFC is full of virgins who dont use drugs because of some silly steroid testing they do on about 3 fighters each show... Get with the times people

[Nougier]

The bad side of this is that HGH, by itself, only increases slow twich muscle fibers numbers and size.

You'd have to cycle GH for years, by itself, to be able to keep the size gained and turn it into fast-twitch muscle.

[TheNatureBoy]

From the looks of it, Frank Mir was on some type of human growth Pizza hormone.

[Nougier]

Originally Posted by TheNatureBoy

From the looks of it, Frank Mir was on some type of human growth Pizza hormone.

Works better if you call it "Pizza Growth Hormone".

Some guys have no humour....

[Harajuku]

Originally Posted by Nougier

The bad side of this is that HGH, by itself, only increases slow twich muscle fibers numbers and size.

You'd have to cycle GH for years, by itself, to be able to keep the size gained and turn it into fast-twitch muscle.

you have no idea what you are talking about. HGH? HUman growth hormone. HGH has shown to be a pretty poor performance enhancer. Though it has shown to be of good use in the "cosmetic" industry.
Cycling HGH for years won't increase slow-twitch muscle fiber, the some how miraculously have said slow-twitch fiber into fast twitch fiber. That does not happen physiologically.
People's fiber make up is set by genetics. With proper training you can train slow-twitch fiber to not be as slow, yes. That is about it. HGH has shown to work best when used in conjunction with steroids. By itself it does little more than cut bodyfat and is sometimes used as an "anti-aging" therapy. Elasticity of skin returning and such.
Man it is too late to go through this.