P4P Kings

[lunacyfrog]

Originally Posted by Freudor

Pride bias?

Que, crazytoad? Where did I mention Pride?

It is always the insecure UFC groupies who do this. The only paranoia is you projecting.


You have illustrated this point well. You are good for something crazytoad.


Like most MMA afficionados, I am a fan of fighters, not organizations or promoters.

Who is projecting?

I never said I was referring to you.

I said your assessment was laughable. Which it is.

The number of elitist Pride groupies on this forum is ridiculous, and it turns people off of the site.

I try to bring new people to the sport, show them the site and within 3 months they are like "what the f*ck is wrong with those people?"

So to say that the forum has a UFC bias is ridiculous.

[Jack V. Savage]

Originally Posted by lunacyfrog

I try to bring new people to the sport, show them the site and within 3 months they are like "what the f*ck is wrong with those people?"

So to say that the forum has a UFC bias is ridiculous.

Uh, yeah. People new to the sport are almost always very biased toward the UFC for very obvious reasons.

[lunacyfrog]

Originally Posted by Jack V. Savage

Silva's last two wins were against Patrick Cote and James Irvin. Fedor's were against Tim Sylvia and HMC. Absolutely no comparison. And Fedor's wins were much, much more impressive. Silva looked horrible against a non-contender, while Fedor obliterates a top-5 guy, and the UFC-biased fans still refuse to admit the truth.

Silva looked untouchable against Cote and stretched the fight to give the fans a show. He knocked out Irvin in a minute.

Fedor looked awesome against Sylvia. But Sylvia is 1-3 in his past 4 fights.

HMC was not even an MMA fighter.

Beating Cote is more impressive than beating HMC.

Not to mention the fact that if you look at the rest of the fights in the past 3 years you have Silva dominating 4 fights against top 10 competition.

Fedor dominated 1 fight against top 10 comp in the same period.

So like I said,

Fedor= best career

Silva= current p4p #1

[lunacyfrog]

Originally Posted by Jack V. Savage

Uh, yeah. People new to the sport are almost always very biased toward the UFC for very obvious reasons.

Dude, I hate to say it but a lot of them got into the sport through Elite XC.

They are of course not the most knowledgeable people, but the elitist attitude is what turns them off. And from what I have seen, the UFC biased fans on this forum are NOT the elitists.

[Jack V. Savage]

Originally Posted by lunacyfrog

Silva looked untouchable against Cote and stretched the fight to give the fans a show. He knocked out Irvin in a minute.

Oh, geez. So if Silva looks bad, it's because he was intentionally sucking because fans apparently would rather see guys running around and not throwing anything than impressive wins. There's just no logic to these Silva love letters.

[Kswin09]

Originally Posted by Makai

Anderson Silva.

Fedor recently beat a guy who in his last three, got wooped by Couture(Raped by Lesnar), finished by NOG, and barely beat a mediocre LHW who had a broken hand in Vera.Why the fuck was he the #1 contender to the proclaimed #1 HW in the world?

Show me any defense from Anderson, where he fought a guy who was coming off of a loss?

Hell, In the last year Lesnar has even fought better competition than the "#1 HW"

Lesnar:
Mir
Herring
Couture

Fedor:
HMC
Sylvia

The only ranked opponents Fedor has ever beaten are Cro Cop and NOG. He decisioned them both.

Anderson beat 3 ranked opponents in Nate, Rich and Hendo. All three former champs. None of them made it out of the second round. And Andersons losses dont matter in this argument. We are talking about right now, current PRIMED Anderson.

So until Fedor beats Barnett and AA, he doesnt belong in the same category as GSP and Silva.

Fedor does belong in the same category as GSP.

Fedor has beaten way better fighters than GSP. GSP does belong on the list of P4P. But so does Fedor.

The guy has beaten Sylvia, Big Nog 2x, Cro Cop, Coleman, Randleman, Hunt and Lindland.
He was the Pride Champion for three years. He hasn't lost in five years.

GSP is a good fighter and he has beaten a slew of good fighters and his record speaks for itself. But he really hasn't has a dominate title run. But he is young in his career and will become a great champion.

But in the long run Fedor will slaughter GSP. Fedor has a better ground game and his stand up is just as good.

So my son if your going to say something on Sherdog. Make sure you can back it up.

[Nabaruzzo]

Originally Posted by lunacyfrog

Silva looked untouchable against Cote and stretched the fight to give the fans a show. He knocked out Irvin in a minute.

Fedor looked awesome against Sylvia. But Sylvia is 1-3 in his past 4 fights.

HMC was not even an MMA fighter.

Beating Cote is more impressive than beating HMC.

Not to mention the fact that if you look at the rest of the fights in the past 3 years you have Silva dominating 4 fights against top 10 competition.

Fedor dominated 1 fight against top 10 comp in the same period.

So like I said,

Fedor= best career

Silva= current p4p #1

Beating cote by what? self-injury. Yeah that's real impressive. James Irvin is a, sorry to say' can. Sylvia was a UFC champ, and was never humiliated in his career, but when stepped into the cage said that Fedor is ''definitely not human''. Anderson is a great champion, but Feodr is Extraterrestrial.

[Jack V. Savage]

Originally Posted by lunacyfrog

Silva looked untouchable against Cote and stretched the fight to give the fans a show. He knocked out Irvin in a minute.

Oh, geez. So if Silva looks bad, it's because he was intentionally sucking because fans apparently would rather see guys running around and not throwing anything than impressive wins. There's just no logic to these Silva love letters.

[Kswin09]

Originally Posted by Jack V. Savage

Uh, yeah. People new to the sport are almost always very biased toward the UFC for very obvious reasons.

I would have to agree. The UFC is bringing in new fans. Pride was good for fans of the sport who have been in it a long time.

[Kswin09]

Originally Posted by Jack V. Savage

Oh, geez. So if Silva looks bad, it's because he was intentionally sucking because fans apparently prefer to see guys running around and not throwing anything than impressive wins. There's just no logic to these Silva love letters.

I love Silva but he should have finished Cote. He could have. Silva is better than Cote in a lot of aspects of fighting. there is no excuse why Silva couldn't just beat the shit of Cote and called it a night. Cote isn't that good.

Silva did suck that night. Even if he was palying around or not. Cote should have been KO'd