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Old 04-02-2007, 09:22 PM   #1 (permalink)

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Icon14 Outcome ( Crocop v. Couture ) = ( Crocop v. Yoshida )

The outcome of Crocop v. Couture will look like Crocop v. Yoshida
Randy Couture compares very well with Hidehiko Yoshida.

- Both are world class grapplers in their own disciplines:
Randy = Greco-roman wrestling ; Yoshida = Judo
Judo and Greco Roman Wrestling both involve upperbody throws

- Both are primarily grapplers that can throw down when the moment calls for it

- Both are natural light-heavyweights and small heavyweights.
They are both around 220-230 lbs.

- Both fought and lost to wild punching light-heavyweight strikers w/ tattoos on their heads:
Randy - Chuck ; Yoshida - Wandy

- Both have wins over freakishly large super-heavyweights strikers:
Yoshida - Hunt ; Randy - Silvia

Looking at their similar skills and opponents, Crocop will really hurt Couture.
Crocop will keep Randy at a comfortable distance with low kicks and good take down defence.
Also people think that the LHK is Crocop's best weapon but they forget that he has a very crisp right jab, straight left and nasty low and body kicks.

Randy is basically a larger version of Matt Lindland with better striking and cardio.
He does a very good job of crowding his opponents and taking the fight to the ground.
However, Randy does not have a good enough ground and pound to keep Mirko on his back.
People really buy into how Randy has great GNP, but the truth of the matter is he doesn't.
He is active on top but does not throw really hard punches when he's in the guard.
Also, if Fedor couldn't finish Crocop on the ground... enough said
Mirko is also very good at neutralizing his opponents when he's on his back.
In the UFC, championship fights are five 5 minute rounds; not 10, 5 and 5
There's no 10 minute round so Randy's cardio advantage only plays a part in the later rounds.

Amidst all the evidence, let's not forget what recently happened to the comic book Captain America. It might just be a sign.

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Old 04-02-2007, 09:23 PM   #2 (permalink)

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I agree that CC is gonna beat Couture, but Couture should NOT be compared to Yoshida at all.
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Old 04-02-2007, 09:25 PM   #3 (permalink)

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you broke this down very well i must say, but remember, Yoshida is not Couture. After Couture's last performance, every fight he his in is 50/50, i dont care who he fights
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Old 04-02-2007, 09:31 PM   #4 (permalink)
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couture will get destroyed, just like the last 2 against chucky
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Old 04-02-2007, 09:38 PM   #5 (permalink)

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I agree that CC is gonna beat Couture, but Couture should NOT be compared to Yoshida at all.
I disagree. I think Randy and Yoshida are quite similar
I think Yoshida could have done very well if he was in the UFC.
In fact, I would choose Yoshida over Chuck, if he's allowed his GI
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Old 04-02-2007, 09:46 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Outcome: (Crocop vs Couture) = (Couture vs Randleman)

That game goes both ways. Dont campare couture to yoshida
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Old 04-02-2007, 09:47 PM   #7 (permalink)

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The outcome of Crocop v. Couture will look like Crocop v. Yoshida
Randy Couture compares very well with Hidehiko Yoshida.

- Both are world class grapplers in their own disciplines:
Randy = Greco-roman wrestling ; Yoshida = Judo
Judo and Greco Roman Wrestling both involve upperbody throws

- Both are primarily grapplers that can throw down when the moment calls for it

- Both are natural light-heavyweights and small heavyweights.
They are both around 220-230 lbs.

- Both fought and lost to wild punching light-heavyweight strikers w/ tattoos on their heads:
Randy - Chuck ; Yoshida - Wandy

- Both have wins over freakishly large super-heavyweights strikers:
Yoshida - Hunt ; Randy - Silvia

Looking at their similar skills and opponents, Crocop will really hurt Couture.
Crocop will keep Randy at a comfortable distance with low kicks and good take down defence.
Also people think that the LHK is Crocop's best weapon but they forget that he has a very crisp right jab, straight left and nasty low and body kicks.

Randy is basically a larger version of Matt Lindland with better striking and cardio.
He does a very good job of crowding his opponents and taking the fight to the ground.
However, Randy does not have a good enough ground and pound to keep Mirko on his back.
People really buy into how Randy has great GNP, but the truth of the matter is he doesn't.
He is active on top but does not throw really hard punches when he's in the guard.
Also, if Fedor couldn't finish Crocop on the ground... enough said
Mirko is also very good at neutralizing his opponents when he's on his back.
In the UFC, championship fights are five 5 minute rounds; not 10, 5 and 5
There's no 10 minute round so Randy's cardio advantage only plays a part in the later rounds.

Amidst all the evidence, let's not forget what recently happened to the comic book Captain America. It might just be a sign.
one of the better threads i've seen in awhile. You really know your sh!t.
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Old 04-02-2007, 09:52 PM   #8 (permalink)

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you broke this down very well i must say, but remember, Yoshida is not Couture. After Couture's last performance, every fight he his in is 50/50, i dont care who he fights

I agree with this gentleman.
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Old 04-02-2007, 09:53 PM   #9 (permalink)
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good analysis but what you fail is randy is 10x better then yoshida ever is/will be
yoshidas biggest accomplishment is taking wanderlei to decisions
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What????

Yoshida has never beat anyone worthwhile and has shit for standup. He has horrible movement and should never be spoken in the same breath as Couture.

Have you only watched Randy's LHW fights. Go watch Randy/Rizzo 2 and tell me he does not have good g'n'p. Wow I cannot believe that people are comparing a guy who has never done anything but lose to top talent to a guy who is a 3 time hw champ and 2 time LHW champ.

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