Okay, toughguy... How would YOU have fought Leben if you were Bisping??? - Page 5

FREE BEER! · 10-20-2008, 10:32 AM

I'd do it like Ross Pointon, run right through his jab and smash his face in!

cymonkey813 · 10-20-2008, 10:32 AM

just a reminder “The Count” has TKO 5 of 8 opponents in the UFC he has a record of stopping fights

Ray Kanne · 10-20-2008, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by amarredondo7

I think a lot of people are going to be saying the same thing when Machida fights Forrest. However, I do think that people expect Machida to be a moving fighter, but very seldom does Machida backpedal, he sidesteps a lot though to avoid full on contact with strikes. But Bisping? I mean, here's a guy that claims to have knockout power and tells someone like Matt Hamill to go back to wrestling. Bisping can't stand with anyone. He is garbage in the standup and knows he would have gotten killed in a standup war. So he fought the way he knew would get him a decision because he couldn't go for a takedown or risk getting close to Leben for fear of his left hand. That said, Bisping fought like a bitch and I hope he gets demolished soon....... real soon. Please Dan Henderson, do me a favor and please knock Bisping the hell out!

You're wrong. He just stood with Leben and won. Stand up does not equal KO and a fighter is not a bitch if he decides to fight for a decision in a fight against a fighter with very heavy hands and a very good chin, he's a smart fighter with a good gameplan. If you can't comprehend the difference you're just not very well versed in fighting.

FREE BEER! · 10-20-2008, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by FREE BEER!

I'd do it like Ross Pointon, run right through his jab and smash his face in!

Oh Shit! Bisbing beat Pointon twice!!

Kswin09 · 10-20-2008, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by LOTH

If I were Bisping, I'd have done exactly what he did. (This is based entirely on the need to win mentality) Had it been me and my skills were identical to Bisping's, I would have gone down slugging.

Bisping lacks the power to KO Leben. There's not enough of a difference in their ground games to have made it worthwhile to take it to the mat, not to mention Bisping lacks wrestling. Given the tools he had, he did what was expected of him.

I agree Bisping fought a good fight. He was the better fighter. He used his jab well. Very well. Bisping can't KO leben. He doesn't have the power to nor does he have any power at MW. He just used what he had to beat Leben. Leben was moving in and was aggressive but Bisping used it to his advantage. While Bisping is a very boring fighter, he was got the job done. Now i'm not hating on the guy but he has to evolve if he wants to beat Silva. Bsiping is going ot have get a better game plan. You goning to need more than a jab and some knees from the clinch to beat Silva.

kingcrimson · 10-20-2008, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by KillerBee07

So by what you are saying why even have points. THIS IS A SPORT IDIOT. It is not a street fight, if you want to see is people swing for the fence than go watch street fights on youtube. There is a reason why Bisping won, it was because he was the better fighter and he showed it. If there had been more rounds we might have been able to see Bisping finish Leben. This is MMA, not Toughman. You are a terrible fan of MMA, you are obviously one of those fans who only loves the blood and violence of it. Go watch Bumfights or something.

Thanks KillerBee you put that so well. 100% agree with you. These are terrible fans of MMA & haven't a clue

Ray Kanne · 10-20-2008, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by danwillbeback

great post

i never get bored watching a fight.

i will never get why ppl call sherk or lyoto boring.

i come from a boxing backround, and a really cant stand alot of mma fans,

Agreed, only they aren't MMA fans, they're KO fans. MMA fans appreciate all the aspects from the different martial arts with different strategies and the lot, these people are only into finishes like KO's and submissions. They're the equivallent to people who watch only KO boxers like Mike Tyson in boxing.

YourFriendDario · 10-20-2008, 10:38 AM

If I were Bisping? Well, I probably wouldn't have circled away from the left hand, I wouldn't have moved in and out so effectively, I wouldn't have hit him with a single combo, nor would I have hit him any leg kicks or liver shots. I certainly wouldn't have bloodied him up, nor would I have rung his bell.

There's some strange rule that's been going on since the Quarry-Starnes fight. It states that in all MMA both fighters have to stand perfectly still and throw power shots until one of the fighters gets knocked out. Defense, footwork, counter-striking and circling are all now considered to be the features of the cowardly fighter.

This will pass though, it's called mixed martial arts and not straight-up slugfest for a reason.

KO By Knee · 10-20-2008, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by AdamL

This is pretty much what I was going to say. UFC is an MMA organization. It's not just 1 dimension. If he can't out-strike him there's other means to win that doesn't revolve around cheap tactics like jab & run. If he can't come up with something aggressive to win with, then he doesn't belong in MMA. It's as simple as that. Fighters are there to fight, not create strategies to win on points.

"Try and score points, the knockout will come"

Every smary fighter lives by this rule, the ones who lose or get KO'd usually don't.

Trinacria · 10-20-2008, 10:40 AM

While I am not a fan of Bisping's by any stretch of the imagination, I thought he fought a very intelligent and masterful game plan. He did the very thing he HAD to do to win based on his skillset.

Cool article here about Bisping and a possible fight with Franklin or Hendo for TUF 9's finale.

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