Official Sherdog P4P Discussion (threads merged)

[firefly4f4]

http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles...d-top-10-18571

While I think you can pick-nits over the order, I don't think that anyone can reasonably object to any of the actually names on this list. Arguing over the order is really splitting hairs.

[RaisedByPuffins]

Originally Posted by Levi_

Sherdog's P4P is too weak for words. Anderson is a HUGE MW, if you are talking P4P, he has to be dropped for that, he is as big as some HW's. If he can get some quality wins at LHW, where his frame dictates he should compete, than we will talk about him being #1 P4P.

GSP beat 2 guys that are on the current P4P list (BJ, Fitch) one guy that was on the list last time (Alves), he is smaller for his weight class than Anderson is for his. Anderson's last 2 performances were far less dominant than those of GSP's even though Anderson's opponents were less skilled than GSP's, yet GSP is still below Anderson? I don't think so.

And Fedor being #3? What have those guys been smoking? He is the perrenial #1 being a small HW that dominates the division, frequently beating guys 30+ pounds heavier, I think that is pretty significant if you are talking P4P. Quick KO's over AA and Tim should have done nothing to drop him out of his perrenial #1 spot. He has been dominant for a lot longer than anyone else on the list, he has proved his mettle with longevity; you have to go with someone who has proven themselves (Fedor was not KO'd in the last couple years by a TUF winner names Serra, and Fedor was the dominant champ when others on the list were still losing to small Japanese men.....).

Sherdog is eventually going to have to get off of Anderson's nuts or the list will just be a joke.

I agree completely - I think Sherdog dug themselves into a hole when they first put him number one, and will be reluctant to ever move him until he loses, even if Fedor and GSP's recent wins demonstrate a lot more skills that Silva's have. That said, I think if Forrest beats him then it gives Sherdog free reign to drop him to fourth, behind Machida, who is criminally not considered amongst the top three as much as he should be.

[Furyus]

I'm convinced Zuffa paid Sherdog something to keep UFC fighters at 1 and 2.

[PushKick]

Sherdog's Rankings just pissed me off for the first time! It almost makes me feel that they are kissing Zuffa's behind. Out of the 3 top man on this bs list only 1 people really hate or love. Want keep seeing him winning or finally loose. And that's Sir. Fedor. I was one of those haters when Floyd Mayweather was called the sooo top P4P. A guy that hasn't lost a single fight in a decade but when only 25 of his 39 fights came to and end thank Sto his skills made me dislike him when he was called the 4p4 king. Fedor has finished via sub or ko 23 of his 30 Victories & remains unbeaten for almost a decade in a sport that's (mainstream) a decade old. When upsets such as GSP VS SERRA 1 or SILVA VS TAKASE occurr & FEDOR VS FUJITA don't occurr I guess that tells you something about that fighter that hasnt let one upset slip even when competing with mediocre opponets just like SERRA OR TAKASE!
OFFICIAL P4P LIST.
1. FEDOR
2. WHATEVER THE #@%@#$ YOU WANT
3. GIANT OCHAI
4. ZULU

[Double Shot]

Sherdog p4p list is a joke. Everyone knows that.

[PushKick]

Loosing some respect for Sherdog...

[wyandotterph]

Ok....here is my baptism under fire!

Why is Fedor the P4P best?
Who has he beat lately to prove this?
GSP has beaten so called p4p great fighters, Fedor has beat washed up fighters.

Dont get me wrong Fedor is a good fighter, but until he proves it with worthy competition, he will only remain a good figher in my eyes not the best.

[changeling93305]

get fitch out of the top ten.

[bobmmaguy]

Originally Posted by wyandotterph

Ok....here is my baptism under fire!

Why is Fedor the P4P best?
Who has he beat lately to prove this?
GSP has beaten so called p4p great fighters, Fedor has beat washed up fighters.

Dont get me wrong Fedor is a good fighter, but until he proves it with worthy competition, he will only remain a good figher in my eyes not the best.

I shall answer all your questions, with questions.

Since their last loss, Anderson, Fedor, Gsp...

Who has faced more fighters?
Who has faced more top 10 fighters?
Who has faced more top 3 fighters?
Who has more wins?
Who has more finishes?
Who has won more championships?
Who has faced more fighters that weigh more then he does?
Who cuts weight?
Who has been Knocked out?
Who has been submitted?

All you UFC fan boys like to think that a hand full of wins under the UFC banner makes you unbeatable and the best ever, yet it's no accomplishment to win 27 in a row. Then you mock the competition, yet never take into account not only has he been winning for so long, but of all people Fedor IS facing top 3 competition for the 3rd time in a row, yet because they are not in the UFC anymore some how that makes them unworthy.

You mock competition, yet during Fedor's run at 27 wins, both Anderson and Gsp have lost to NOT SO GOOD COMPETITION. Remember this is DURING Fedor's win streak, these guys have both been FINISHED by not so good competition. Then you people have the oddasity to talk about Fedor not facing top guys, when your top guys, can't even get half a Fedor win streak, BECAUSE THEY WERE FINISHED BY LESS THEN GOOD COMPETITION...

You know whats bad?

Fedor is the only fighter that can win in 3 minutes, taking little damage, and because someone got a few shots in, or someone landed on top of him, he was losing or lost a step. Even tough the opponent didn't make it out of the first round.
Fedor is so good that people use fights from 9 years ago to try and discredit him.

Sorry but Fedor is the best, because he has been for many years and nobody has even come close to his list of accomplishments. So as long as he doesn't lose, ala, Gsp vs Serra, he's the best. Let's see if Gsp can go the next 20 fights without making a mistake and getting KTFO..

[giusti825]

Originally Posted by SherShihTzu

If you look just at records, P4P, Fedor is the best. But if you look at who is a better mixed martial artist - meaning who is the most proficient at various styles of martial arts - then you have to admit, Fedor is the best. But if you just consider how dominant the fighter has been in their most recent fights, well, under those circumstances, you have to admit Fedor is the best. I guess what I'm trying to say is right now, P4P, Fedor is the best.

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