Official Sherdog P4P Discussion (threads merged)

[IPV7]

Originally Posted by Aas Gutú Adéli

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Some part of me wants Randy to move back to LHW and fight Anderson. No clue why.

Because you know Randy will take it to him win or lose and not to mention it would be curious to see what type of game plan he creates for the fight.

[Aas Gutú Adéli]

Originally Posted by IPV7

Because you know Randy will take it to him win or lose and not to mention it would be curious to see what type of game plan he creates for the fight.

Probably. Also, a former HW champion vs a MW champion where the MW would be a heavy favorite. Randy might be way too slow these days...

[jumabu]

Originally Posted by bunglecf

fedor has fought much more tougher opposition that anderson silva, this makes him the top p4p in mma today. Anybody that says otherwise is either related to the ufc (eg , kenny florian, dana, couture), or isnt a true mma fan.

Fedor notable wins against top opposition:

Nogeira twice, former pride champion and ufc interim champion
coleman twice, pride gp champion, ufc hw champion
randleman, ufc champion
sylvia, ufc champion
sammy shcilt, k1 champion
mark hunt, k1 champion
arlovski, ufc champion
crocop, pride gp champion

anderson silva has fought some top opposition but not even close to fedor

d henderson , pride and ufc champ
marquart, king of pancrase
franklin twice, ufc champ
carlos newton, ufc champ

if anybody disagrees with this please let me know

+10

[IPV7]

Originally Posted by Aas Gutú Adéli

Probably. Also, a former HW champion vs a MW champion where the MW would be a heavy favorite. Randy might be way too slow these days...

well to be honest, Randy should not be fighting at heavy weight because he can easily cut to 205 and Silva has no problem competing at that weight so size wise their is no advantage. I believe Siva's walk around weight is 215, while Randy is a few pounds heavier.

Yea, I think Randy's best days are behind him. The fact that he is still fighting with the best is just mind blowing.

[Quilled Mind]

Originally Posted by Aas Gutú Adéli

Probably. Also, a former HW champion vs a MW champion where the MW would be a heavy favorite. Randy might be way too slow these days...

I think Randy's gameplanning outweights Anderson's skills...but that's just me. Unfortunately, we've seen Randy get KO'd by Chuck and TKO'd by Brock, which are monsters compared to Anderson but still...a fast strike to Randy's ear, chin, temple just might be enough to take Randy. I think Randy's ground control would also outweight Anderson's sub attempts because it's hard to lock a sub when you're getting pounded in the face with fists and elbows.
I think it really is a 50/50 fight which is why you find it intriguing, as do I. I give a thumbs up to it as well...although, I really hate it when fighter division jump constantly for no reason. I like Randy at HW, Anderson at MW and Brock should have SuperHeavyweight, if they would get on making that a true division already. Heh.

[sharkman]

Originally Posted by IPV7

Can someone please tell me why BJPenn is in the top 5??? His record does not warrant this nomination.

thats nonsence, he is actually one of the only guys on the list who has fought at multiple different weight categories!! Not only has he held the belt at 2 weight categories, he has also competed at lhw, going to a decision against freaking Machida. Thats pretty much a good definition of P4P

[hokage55]

Sherdog's p4p rankings are a joke. Fedor at #3? Anderson at #1? It seems that the overwhelming majority of MMA fans are coming to a conclusion that The Last Emperor is the best P4P in the world. It should be:
1. Fedor
2. GSP
3. Anderson
4. Torres
5. Penn
6. Machida
7. Evans
8. Alves
9. Mike Thomas Brown

Honestly I am starting to wonder if the UFC gives Sherdog a little incentive to make Silva their P4P king

[Destroyer218]

1- Fedor Emelianenko (30-1, HW G.O.A.T.)
2- Antonio Rodrigo Noguiera (#2 HW G.O.A.T., tremendous heart has fought wars in ring/octagon)
3- Wanderlei Silva (LHW G.O.A.T., seven year unbeaten streak in PRIDE)
4- Kaszushi Sakuraba - (The face of Japanese MMA, though he usually fought heavier opponents, IMO, the MW G.O.A.T, defeated four Gracies, Vitor Belfort, and a young Rampage Jackson)
5- Matt Hughes (42-7, WW G.O.A.T., two time UFC Champ at 170, winner of nine title fights)
6- Georges St. Pierre (18-2, future WW G.O.A.T., avenged an early career loss to Matt Hughes and a flash KO loss to Matt Serra)
7- Royce Gracie (UFC 1,2, and 4 tournament winner, popularized BJJ and MMA in North America)
8- Bas Rutten (28-4-1, UFC HW Champ, and two time King of Pancrase, 21-0-1, in last 22 career fights, widely considered by many to be the greatest martial artist ever, his career was derailed by injuries in 1999. Won comeback fight against Ruben "Warpath" Villareal in 2006, his only fight in the last ten years.)
9- Igor Vovchanchyn (47-9, had thirty fight win streak stopped by Mark Coleman at PRIDE 2000 GP Final. At that point, the most feared striker in MMA/NHB)
10-(tie) Mark "The Hammer" Coleman (UFC 10 & 11 tournament champion, won Superfight v. Dan Severn at UFC 12, capturing first UFC HW Championship, PRIDE 2000 GP winner)
10-(tie) Ken Shamrock (MMA pioneer, first ever King of Pancrase, UFC 6 & 7 superfight winner, defeating Oleg Taktarov, and Dan Severn, 23-5-2 before leaving MMA for Pro Wrestling in 1996 at age 31.)
10-(tie) Dan "The Beast" Severn (UFC 5 tournament champ, UFC 9 superfight winner, Ultimate Ultimate 95 winner, 87 wins in 108 MMA / NHB fights, still active at age 54.)
10-(tie) Don "The Predator" Frye (first "cross-trained" Mixed Martial Artist [boxing/wrestling], UFC 8 tournament champ & U.U. '96 winner, won 15 of first 16 fights, only loss from 1996-2002 was to Mark Coleman.

[iMURDA]

Fedors not even in my top 5..brock would beat him n i hate brock...

[RIEMMA]

Im happy with SherDogs top 10. Think they've done a good job. Though, getting harder and harder to see Anderson as the P4P best in the world the way he fought at 97