Official Sherdog P4P Discussion (threads merged)

[mauriciogomi2]

Originally Posted by m040

Wait, if we're judging Fedor by his last 3 years, then how the HELL do you score him #1 P4P? The only way the top 5 ranking makes sense is out of respect for his career-long body of work.

The last three years have been terrible for a supposed #1 P4P fighter.

i don't see why the fuck beating sylvia and arlovski , well destroying them, in like 5 minutes are not better than dancing with cote and leites for like 40 minutes, or gsp beating on outmatched fitch or smaller bj.

[mauriciogomi2]

HMC maybe can to you, i don't see why he is. He's ssirm champ, took fedor down twice, fucking bigger than lesnar, and decent k1 record. And Mark Hunt is no can either.

Obviously, to some people, if they don't fight in ufc, they are automatically can. And they think what Dana says should be in bible i guess

[Squarechoke]

Originally Posted by Zeicon

Tim Silvia was ranked #5 (as I recall) and Arlovski was ranked #2 (certain) at the time. Nog was ranked #1 the first time and #2 the second time. I don't remember where Coleman was ranked but Randleman was a definite top 10 having just KO'd Prime CroCop. So yea, pretty impressive, especially considering they all got dominated.

They are good wins, I was just stating that being a former UFC champ doesn't necessarily mean much in itself. Coleman wasn't ranked (1-1 in the four years leading up to the first fight, not fighting at HW before the second). Randleman could have been ranked after the CC win, I don't remember. Unfortunately for him he was overhyped even worse than Gonzaga and Kongo after their respective CC wins, losing the next five straight.

[Riffmeister11]

Originally Posted by Arkanjal

Thales and Cote are nowhere near the level of can as Zulu though....

Atleast he mopped the floor with him, like what HE'S SUPPOSED TO DO.

[Wicked_1]

Fedor is the king of a division where he is sometimes outweighed by 70 lbs or more, and still dominates his opponets. Anderson is king of a division where he is the biggest guy, and still he can't finish people off. Anderson is a great fighter, but Fedor is the best.

[bobmmaguy]

There is ONLY one fighter that has proven his worth in about 30 fights, that has only been stopped by one doctor.

There is only ONE fighter that has beaten:

5 different X UFC champions
Coleman
Randleman
Sylvia
Nog
Arlovski

4 kick boxing champions
Schilt
Hunt
Goodridge
HMC

7 different MMA champions
Coleman
Randleman
Sylvia
Nog
Goodridge
Mirko
Arlovski

2 silver olympic medalist
Lindland
Ogawa

1 ADCC open weight champion
Arona

Won the combat sambo gold in Russia on 2-21-09, defeating 3 players in 1 minute.


There is only 1 fighter that has gone 30+ fights that has

- Never knocked down by any type of strike.
- Never lost a decision.
- Never been sub'd
- Never been knocked out

Only one fighter that has ever won 5 different mma championships.
- Wamma HW belt
- Pride HW belt
- Pride Grand Prix tournament
- Rings king of kings tournament
- Rings world class tournament

All while finishing 76% of his opponents.
A current 26 fight win streak
With 22 victories in the first round
5 victories in the first minute
12 victories in the first 2 minutes
Lowest strikes absorbed per minute, percentage out of any fighter with at least 10 fights at .59

No other fighter in all MMA has any where near the list of accomplishments.

Mind you Fedor did this while being injured 2 times due to injuries he sustained to his hand during a fight. And while top fighters backed out of fights. One of which back out on multiple occasions.

[Squarechoke]

The above post is a good example of people not realizing what's relevant in a P4P argument and what's not, further showing how pointless it is to discuss before a there is a consensus on the definition of the term.

[bobmmaguy]

Originally Posted by Squarechoke

The above post is a good example of people not realizing what's relevant in a P4P argument and what's not, further showing how pointless it is to discuss before a there is a consensus on the definition of the term.

Yes it is. Your just butthurt. oh and I agree haha

[Joe_]

Forget Fedor's place, he is obviously #1. But ranking Silva above GSP is retarded.

[Courter44]

Originally Posted by mauriciogomi2

what happened, yes

it's your way of wording the both fights , which you try hard to make it favorable to anderson

nullifyingn or not doing much for 25 straight minutes
glass jaw or overhand right that could've killed an elephant.
dropping his hands and flying knee = if fedor catches him , it's a big mistake. lots of people do, and if he doesn't get caught, nothing wrong with it. great logic

or silva haven't done shit for 8 rounds against likes of cote and leites



props

What I put isn't necessarily how I feel, but that's one way that it can be looked at. I'm just saying I don't think last nights performance really did anything to the rankings. Anderson was expected to dominate an out classed opponent and he did. I don't see how that shakes things up at all.