Official Sherdog P4P Discussion (threads merged)

[m040]

Yeah, and you know what? It's stupid. GSP's competition has been so far superior to Fedor's it is not open for debate. Even Anderson's opponents have had average win records a full 20% higher than Fedor's in their last 10 fights.

Ya'll are a bunch of fan boys that like to feel like you're part of some "underground" secret club by rubbing Fedor's balls. He's clearly #3 P4P.

[Zeicon]

Originally Posted by Arkanjal

Thales and Cote are nowhere near the level of can as Zulu though....

So if Fedor hadn't fought Zulu and had been 28-1 instead of 29-1, he would've been more deserving of #1? What a twisted logic is that. Besides, is Zulu even on Fedor's record on fight finder?

Still, demolishing Zulu in 10 seconds is still much much better than being FINISHED by Chonan and Takase, but of course you'll just pretend like the latter never happened...

[MethadoneMan]

Fedor is the man. Everyone knew this all along, even if Dana was pretending otherwise.

[Arkanjal]

Originally Posted by Zeicon

So if Fedor hadn't fought Zulu and had been 28-1 instead of 29-1, he would've been more deserving of #1? What a twisted logic is that. Besides, is Zulu even on Fedor's record on fight finder?

Still, demolishing Zulu in 10 seconds is still much much better than being FINISHED by Chonan and Takase, but of course you'll just pretend like the latter never happened...

.....You had made the point that Fedor was fighting worse competition BECAUSE Pride died. I was simply bringing up that Fedor was fighting bad competition IN PRIDE.

And you AUTOMATICALLY lose the conversation by not realizing fighters have nicknames Fight Finder - Wagner "Zuluzinho" da Conceicao Martins's Mixed Martial Arts Statistics

[Zeicon]

Originally Posted by m040

Yeah, and you know what? It's stupid. GSP's competition has been so far superior to Fedor's it is not open for debate. Even Anderson's opponents have had average win records a full 20% higher than Fedor's in their last 10 fights.

Ya'll are a bunch of fan boys that like to feel like you're part of some "underground" secret club by rubbing Fedor's balls. He's clearly #3 P4P.

Fedor is 7-0 against UFC champions. Even GSP with his stellar competition can't match that. In fact, no one in the UFC can match that. Only hughes has more wins against UFC champions but he also has 3 losses to the same so 7-0 is better. And aside from those UFC champions Fedor has many other great wins and still has like twice the wins GSP has and half the losses.

He also didn't lose recently to a Serra-caliber fighter (imagine Fedor tapping to strikes? )

With that said, I have much more respect for GSP than I have for Anderson and he deserves to be #2.

[conmemay]

p4p is just personal opinions. Fedor and Anderson are as close as it comes to unbeatable in their divisions. Let's leave it at that. No point arguing who is better than who cuz we'll never be able to prove it unless they fight each other.

[mauriciogomi2]

Originally Posted by Courter44

So nullifying a guy for 25 straight minutes and making him look like an amateur drops you while getting pounded on and catching a guy with a glass jaw while he drops his hands is more impressive?

Silva went has now went 8 rounds in a row without really being touched.

what happened, yes

it's your way of wording the both fights , which you try hard to make it favorable to anderson

nullifyingn or not doing much for 25 straight minutes
glass jaw or overhand right that could've killed an elephant.
dropping his hands and flying knee = if fedor catches him , it's a big mistake. lots of people do, and if he doesn't get caught, nothing wrong with it. great logic

or silva haven't done shit for 8 rounds against likes of cote and leites



props

[Zeicon]

Originally Posted by Arkanjal

.....You had made the point that Fedor was fighting worse competition BECAUSE Pride died. I was simply bringing up that Fedor was fighting bad competition IN PRIDE.

I never denied that.

But Zulu fight wasn't in the last 3 years either so according to you it's irrelevant? Why bring it up then? Then you might as well bring up Anderson's losses to Takase and Chonan and what's worse? Obliterating a can or being submitted by mediocre Japanese fighters?

That's what I thought.

As for me thinking Zulu was not on his fight finder record... I was confused by the "Submission (Punches)" because I recalled the fight as a TKO, not a submission but I've only watched that fight once, a long time ago. You're grasping for straws if you think that me having a moment of confusion pertains to the discussion at hand though. Shows me you know you have no good arguments for Anderson at #1.

[Pirao]

Originally Posted by mauriciogomi2

i have gsp at 3. after fedor and kid


i think kid is better pure wrestler and much better striker p4p.

Kid hasn't fought in like forever and his skills may have diminished. Luckily we'll see him back in action soon in the FWGP, I can't wait.

[m040]

Originally Posted by Zeicon

I never denied that.

But Zulu fight wasn't in the last 3 years either so according to you it's irrelevant? Why bring it up then? Then you might as well bring up Anderson's losses to Takase and Chonan and what's worse? Obliterating a can or being submitted by mediocre Japanese fighters?

That's what I thought.

As for me thinking Zulu was not on his fight finder record... I was confused by the "Submission (Punches)" because I recalled the fight as a TKO, not a submission but I've only watched that fight once, a long time ago...

Wait, if we're judging Fedor by his last 3 years, then how the HELL do you score him #1 P4P? The only way the top 5 ranking makes sense is out of respect for his career-long body of work.

The last three years have been terrible for a supposed #1 P4P fighter.