Official Sherdog P4P Discussion (threads merged) - Page 18

eoesceejay · 04-23-2009, 09:20 AM

I am pretty damn sure Rampage would be undefeated if he fought the same guys Machida did. Franklin, overweight BJ, Thiago Silva just to name a few.

dukes_80 · 04-23-2009, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by buLLetprooF JBE

Rampage is sure as hell not even top 20 p4p in my opinion. Only thing he can do is strike he has some wrestling, very limited in that as well. Sure he's strong and can slam people, but when he's on his back, he's a turtle.

Not even top 20. I would love to see that list. There are twenty fighters in the worl better than him, no. Machida is a great fighter but he has not beaten any of the top guys. If he beats Rashad he will be on the list. QJ, when he is on is one of the best if not the best LHW there is. My biggest complaint with the list is Fedor is #3. If GSP or Anderson where the same size as Fedor they would still lose. The guy is the best. If it is something in mma Fedor is the best. MMA=Fedor. Let's see how Machida does with Rashad and then we will know how good he is. I think right now there are more questions than answers.

Hautamaki · 04-23-2009, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by sharkman

Plus, are some of you really accusing sherdog of kissing up to the UFC?? Have you heard the thing Dana White says about them? Use some logic....just because you dont like the rankings, bare in mind that I can guarantee a lot of people wont like your rankings (no matter what they are). and I often disagree with how they rank.

Reminds me of that Green Day song 'Self Esteem'. Just because Sherdog gets absolutely 0 love from the UFC doesn't necessarily imply that Sherdog isn't trying to kiss up to the UFC a little. Or overrate them for some other reason. Maybe it's a calculated effort to grab pageviews from the lesser educated UFC-only fans quickly growing in abundance.

slammpage · 04-23-2009, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by AtotheZ

Yeah but he also got tko'ed by Jardine and Evans. Machida, on the other hand, is still undefeated.

so Jon Jones and Shane Carwin but you don't see many cheerleaders for them to be put in Sherdogs bullshit lists

StikyIcky · 04-23-2009, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Motogp69

1. Win over 2 guys with Concussion Syndrome
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3. Forrest made him look like this was his first MMA fight
4. Jardine won that fight, but his style just doesn't equate to getting the judges on your side as the scary black guy with the dog like stare down the whole fight

LOL what?

Holy shit, did your momma have concussion syndrome while you were in her belly? She probably was high on crack too.

Do you win fights by getting dropped while doing no damage to the opponent? LOL!

martijn · 04-23-2009, 09:29 AM

Hi guys,

Just like everyone I'll give my opinion about the P4P rankings. Why? Because those rankings anoy the shit out of me.
First of all, let's compare the 3 contenders and compare their records:

A. Silva
record: 24-4
height: 6'2
weight: 185
weightcut: 25 pounds (or more)
average weight opponents: 181,96

GSP
record: 18-2
height: 5'10
weight: 169
weightcut: 20 pounds (or more)
average weight opponents: 166,3

Fedor
record: 30-1
height: 6'0
weight: 233
weightcut: 0
average weight opponents: 240,3

1. While we all know Fedor could fight at MW (if he would cut weight etc.) he fights at HW where the strongest fighters are.
2. While GSP on average outweighs his opponent with 2.7 pounds and A. SIlva with 3.04 pounds, Fedor is on average outweighed by 6.7 pounds (and I made those calculations on sherdogfightfinder weight, which is based on the weightcutting of as Arona for example)
So not only is Fedor capable at fighting at a lighter weight he chooses to fight everyone, including the biggest and strongest at HW.
3.He is undefeated (that cut doesn't count as a loss IMO), while the other P4P challengers have more then 1 losses. Besides being undefeated he is undefeated while having the most fights out of the 3.

So P4P 0,97 pounds vs 1 pound (opponent) of Fedor has a better record as 1.017 A. SIlva has against 1 pound opponent and 1,016 GSP against 1 pound opponent.

Took me a while to calculate lol