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Old 07-08-2008, 11:56 PM   #2991 (permalink)
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I just watched the fight and here is how I would have scored it.

Round 1. 10-9 Rampage - Knockdown of Forrest made the diff
Round 2. 10-8 Griffin - No attempts by Rampage to get out of mount or negate ground control, Forrest busy on top
Round 3. 10-9 Rampage - Cut and takedown by Rampage outweigh triangle and omoplata attempt
Round 4. 10-9 Rampage - Punches by Rampage more effective and damaging then kicks of Griffin
Round 5. 10-10 Draw - Griffin kept and maintained full Octagon control and would have earned the round if not for Rampage throwing some bombs in the last quarter of the round.

Added up, I have the fight scored 48-47 for Rampage Jackson


No disrespect to Forrest, in fact I like him better then Rampage.
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Aggression and Octagon Control are typically used as tie breakers.
Food for thought.
When in doubt the judges give it to the guy that is coming forward and is in the middle of the cage.
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Old 07-08-2008, 11:59 PM   #2992 (permalink)
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Rampage won but there is more money in a rematch which is when Rampage will royally kick Forrest's ass. I like Forrest but without the UFC's persuasive influence he will get his ass handed to him. 300 odd pages of posts tell you a lot of people think that this decision stinks to high heaven.
Wasn't Rampage supposed to royally kick Forrest's ass the first time?
I had picked Rampage by second round TKO.
When the fight started I was saying how much I hope that Forrest survives the first 2 minutes so I can enjoy the fight.

Forrest impressed the hell out of me.
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Old 07-09-2008, 03:48 AM   #2993 (permalink)

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Congrats To Forrest...I Didn't Think He Could Do It. I Had Rampage To Take It But Those Leg Kicks Were Somethin' Serious In The Fight...They Were The Only Thing I Could See Being The Reason The Fight Was Scored The Way It Was.
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Old 07-09-2008, 05:43 AM   #2994 (permalink)

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Wasn't Rampage supposed to royally kick Forrest's ass the first time?
I had picked Rampage by second round TKO.
When the fight started I was saying how much I hope that Forrest survives the first 2 minutes so I can enjoy the fight.

Forrest impressed the hell out of me.
he impressed you? if rampge leg didnt hurt rampge would've finished him in the second. now in the rematch he will in the first.
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rampage was robbed
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Old 07-09-2008, 05:58 AM   #2996 (permalink)

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he impressed you? if rampge leg didnt hurt rampge would've finished him in the second. now in the rematch he will in the first.
True, but he did hurt his leg. That's the sign of a well though out match plan. Sure the kicks were never going to knock him out but they debilitated page to the point where he did get the upper hand he couldn't capitalize on it.
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Old 07-09-2008, 07:29 AM   #2997 (permalink)
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he impressed you?
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if rampge leg didnt hurt rampge would've finished him in the second.
why do you think that? what makes you think that? and how did the leg get hurt?

That is so much conjecture. You could say "Tim was going to finish Nog off in the fourth, but Tim couldn't because it didn't go to the fourth." You could say "Hughes would've wound up winning rounds 3-5 and beat GSP in their third fight."

Many many many people thought Rampage was going to finish Forrest (including me). He didn't. The reason Rampage didn't finish Forrest? Forrest. And that impressed me.

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now in the rematch he will in the first
and if he doesn't are you going to say "if rampage leg didn't get hurt he would've?"
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why do you think that? what makes you think that? and how did the leg get hurt?

That is so much conjecture. You could say "Tim was going to finish Nog off in the fourth, but Tim couldn't because it didn't go to the fourth." You could say "Hughes would've wound up winning rounds 3-5 and beat GSP in their third fight."

Many many many people thought Rampage was going to finish Forrest (including me). He didn't. The reason Rampage didn't finish Forrest? Forrest. And that impressed me.



and if he doesn't are you going to say "if rampage leg didn't get hurt he would've?"

Agreed.
Thats is the stupidest statement.

'Gee, if he didn't get knocked out he would have won!'

lol

Rampage had plenty of opportunities.
He didn't do squat.
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And hears another thought, how did Forrest get away with laying on top of Rampage for four and a half minutes inflicting ZERO damage, and not get stood up?! I haven’t heard or seen anyone say that yet. All right, enough on round two, 10-9 Griffin, give him 10-8 if you really want.
No standup there, Forrest had a controlling position and did have a couple weak sub attempts. What was interesting is that Rampage was just resting his leg, and I think Forrest knew that because he wasn't taking much risk. Hence, it looked like LnP but really wasn't. Making this a 10-8 round sets a very bad precendent for LnP fighters but at the same time, Rampage did nothing and chose to do nothing after catching that leg kick.

Most important, Round 2 showed that Forrest can't do anything to Rampage except for leg kicks, and even that stopped worked after second round. He stayed active, but, inneffective, while taking hard hits whenever he moved in. You do not become a champion like that.
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I was surprised.
Not the worst decision ever, but still a bad one.
Even giving Forest the second round 10-8 and the last round 10-9 still has it as a draw.
I saw it as either a draw or Rampage 48-46.
Also, I thought you would have to do a little more to take it from the champ...
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