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Old 03-27-2006, 10:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Noticed a couple things while watching Luke vs Stevenson on UFC Unleashed

1) Elbows suck. Joe was obviously just throwing the elbows with intent to cut Luke. I always liked elbows until I saw this fight again. Joe was just digging his elbow into luke trying to cut him. That would make fights suck if a guy gets a win just by digging his elbow into someones head.

2) ground and pound fighters have no worries. If they get rocked just go for a takedown and let the other fighter sprawl and lay on top of you until you get yourself together like stevenson did. This is why I wish we had knees to the head on the ground like in PRIDE. It prevents shit like this from happening.
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Old 03-27-2006, 10:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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usually if you are seriously rocked you arent going to have enough coordination on a guy who has a decent sprawl. elbows do not suck, guys who throw damn hard elbows like the crow is what makes them good. hell i know when i have my mma fight (was supposed to be mar 18th but got cancelled due to time constraints grr) if given the opportunity i will throw elbows with intent to ko
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How many times has a fight ended with an elbow KO as opposed to a cut loss from an elbow?
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Old 03-27-2006, 10:21 PM   #4 (permalink)

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1) Elbows suck. Joe was obviously just throwing the elbows with intent to cut Luke. I always liked elbows until I saw this fight again. Joe was just digging his elbow into luke trying to cut him. That would make fights suck if a guy gets a win just by digging his elbow into someones head.

2) ground and pound fighters have no worries. If they get rocked just go for a takedown and let the other fighter sprawl and lay on top of you until you get yourself together like stevenson did. This is why I wish we had knees to the head on the ground like in PRIDE. It prevents shit like this from happening.

I like elbows, but you make a good point with number 2, knees to the head on the ground changes the game considerably and IMHO makes fights better. Stomping grounded oponents however is best left out of MMA.....
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How many times has a fight ended with an elbow KO as opposed to a cut loss from an elbow?
good point but sometimes you throw an elbow aimed one place the oppoenent moved and could move his head into a bad spot. timing is everything and anything can happen in mma, except with fedor who doesnt lose
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Old 03-27-2006, 10:29 PM   #6 (permalink)

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No elbows, but knees allowed on the ground does indeed make the fight more exciting.
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Old 03-27-2006, 10:31 PM   #7 (permalink)

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.... except with fedor who doesnt lose
Ironically, with the lone exception being an (illegal) elbow strike
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Ironically, with the lone exception being an (illegal) elbow strike
haha wow that is ironic
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the problem isnt elbows per se, but cut stoppages. They should simply allow the fight to continue
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i wish cummo would have just ko'ed joe daddy.

and elbows suck. legalize the face stomps/soccer kicks
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