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02-06-2012, 07:01 AM
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Misinterpretation of "agressiveness"
Diaz' fans main arguments on why Nick should've won the fight was that he basically that he was "more agressive".
Well, he wasn't more agressive. He was just walking forward while Condit was hitting him. In my opinion, the fighter that's striking is being the agressor, and Condit outstruck Diaz by far.
"Effective aggressiveness means moving forward and landing a legal strike."
From the UFC rules and regulations site.
So, i don't get all the whining. Let's get this over with, kids.
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02-06-2012, 07:05 AM
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If you're aggressive, but you're being out-struck, your aggression is not effective. The scoring criteria is for 'effective aggression'. Diaz did not have that. He was moving forward, but he wasn't effective with his stalking. Therefore, Condit controlled the octagon by dictating the fight and where it went and had Diaz follow him around the cage, demonstrating effectiveness with his striking volume and strikes landed and made Diaz fight his fight.
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02-06-2012, 07:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Substance Abuse
If you're aggressive, but you're being out-struck, your aggression is not effective. The scoring criteria is for 'effective aggression'. Diaz did not have that. He was moving forward, but he wasn't effective with his stalking. Therefore, Condit controlled the octagon by dictating the fight and where it went and had Diaz follow him around the cage, demonstrating effectiveness with his striking volume and strikes landed and made Diaz fight his fight.
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Exactly, and by doing so, was superior in 3 out of 4 judging criterias (Effective Striking, Agressiveness and Octagon Control). I don't understand how's this so hard for people to understand/see.
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02-06-2012, 07:11 AM
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How dare you bring logic to these arguments
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02-06-2012, 07:17 AM
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You act like he didnt land any strikes ....
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02-06-2012, 07:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Substance Abuse
If you're aggressive, but you're being out-struck, your aggression is not effective. The scoring criteria is for 'effective aggression'. Diaz did not have that. He was moving forward, but he wasn't effective with his stalking. Therefore, Condit controlled the octagon by dictating the fight and where it went and
had Diaz follow him around the
cage, demonstrating effectiveness
with his striking volume and strikes
landed and made Diaz fight his
fight.
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You mean effective like those leg kicks of Carlos? GTFO!
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02-06-2012, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Local Plata
You act like he didnt land any strikes ....
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He did land, but it's not like he rocked Condit ou knocked him down... And as the image tells, Condit outstruck Diaz in 4 out of 5 rounds.
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02-06-2012, 07:19 AM
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I watched the fight with two of my friends, I was for Condit, one was for Diaz and the other was pretty neutral. When Diaz raised his hand after the final bell, we all agreed that he was definately wrong.
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02-06-2012, 07:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kneetoface
You mean effective like those leg kicks of Carlos? GTFO!
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You've obviously never taken a leg kick??? You'd walk with a limp for a week if you ate one of those
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02-06-2012, 07:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Substance Abuse
If you're aggressive, but you're being out-struck, your aggression is not effective. The scoring criteria is for 'effective aggression'. Diaz did not have that. He was moving forward, but he wasn't effective with his stalking. Therefore, Condit controlled the octagon by dictating the fight and where it went and had Diaz follow him around the cage, demonstrating effectiveness with his striking volume and strikes landed and made Diaz fight his fight.
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someone needs to make a sticky thread debunking all the BS diaz fanboys spew...
this should be on there!
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