[BrianFantana]

Originally Posted by whodey48

im a whitebelt??? you started a thread "Who are the former title holders in the UFC? " ya ***got... glad to see how much you know... thats fantastic you "logged on" to sherdog before me... how long have you been training?

Its not about how long he's been training, its about forum decorum, which by the way is a fantastic rhyme. Learn to show some respect, and you won't have people screaming "WHITE BELT" from behind their keyboards.

[ICONholland]

Originally Posted by mose

False.

Hamill is neither a better wrestler, nor more decorated than Randy Couture.

Hamill:

2-time DIV III champion

1997 - 1st place 167 lbs.
1998 - 1st place 190 lbs.

1997 - won freestyle and greco at the DEAF games

Couture:

3-time DIV I all-american
3-time USA senior greco roman champion(1990, 1993, 1997)

1990 - 6th place DIV I at 190
1991 - 2nd place DIV I at 190
1992 - 2nd place DIV I at 190

i'm wondering who was the number 1 guy in those years?

[Kodiak72]

I haven't read any posts with people making these kinda claims about Matt. I've sen where people say he has alot of potential (which he does). I'd say less than 1% on the forum think Matt could beat Chuck at this time. Given the proper time to develop and assuming he continues to train hard with good people MAtt has a CHANCE to be very good someday.

[the-spellr]

Originally Posted by BrianFantana

Its not about how long he's been training, its about forum decorum, which by the way is a fantastic rhyme. Learn to show some respect, and you won't have people screaming "WHITE BELT" from behind their keyboards.

then you shuld bow down to me you chump

[koquerelle]

after the Leben hype, the Hamill hype

I even saw a thread where a guy said that Hamill's boxing was incredible. Just like Leben, i hope they feed him to a guy with great stand-up. Than, they'll know.

Too bad though, guys like Leben and Hamill are great athletes with good potential, but all the hype makes old mma fans hate them. Not every fighter is destined to be champion. They should realize that.

[the-spellr]

Originally Posted by koquerelle

after the Leben hype, the Hamill hype

I even saw a thread where a guy said that Hamill's boxing was incredible. Just like Leben, i hope they feed him to a guy with great stand-up. Than, they'll know.

Too bad though, guys like Leben and Hamill are great athletes with good potential, but all the hype makes old mma fans hate them. Not every fighter is destined to be champion. They should realize that.

this is actually a very good post. I agree with you!

[mose]

Originally Posted by ICONholland

i'm wondering who was the number 1 guy in those years?

1991 - Paul Keysaw

1992 - Mark Kerr

[Ruxe]

Originally Posted by BrianFantana

The statement of Hamill being a better wrestler than Randy is, well, based on the fact that he's a more decorated, and thus more highly regarded wrestler than Randy. As we can recall, Couture was the first guy who really took Chuck down and pounded him. I agree that Hamill is nowhere near that level yet, but give him time. One day he may very well be the LHW champ, but this is years away.

Hamill is NOT more decorated in wrestling than Randy Coture. Hamill NEVER won an open national title or competed in an open world championship or Pan Am games. Hamill competed in the DEAF GAMES...Huge difference! Coture was a true top-ranked greco guy. Hamill was a good, handicapped games ahtelete.

[Biggest Elbows]

Guys... Guys... Guys...
Can't you see? TUF is tearing MMA fans apart. It has us at each others throats over how good a TUFer can possibly be.

Hamil Better than Randy? Absurd. This question shouldn't even be brought into a conversation. Does sherdog belt color matter in MMA knowledge. Also possible but not likely. Just means they have spent more time on Sherdog than you.

[whodey48]

well im sorry if you think im disrespectful, i didnt really intend to be but i think the statement...

"TUF is soley responsible for ruining the MMA scene in the US"

it pretty insane... from who ive talked to in the sport and the ufc fighters ive talked to they disagree... getting on free tv and gaining new fans is a good thing, yeah most have no idea whats going on which is why its our job to help educate... if you want to call me a whitebelt cuz i just started a membership thats all good... you can check out my previous posts to see what i know or not or you can come to cincy and train for a week or weekend to see