Lyoto Machida On Rashad Evans: "I see some flaws in his game." - Page 9

CRuck1980 · 01-08-2009, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaploop

I think Rampage/Evans will sell more PPV than a Machida/Evans fight, on the same note...I think a Machida/Rampage fight would sell more (and be more exciting) than the Machida/Evans fight. You are right, a champ must be able to carry a PPV. It blows my mind that A Silva doesn't sell more PPV; the dude the probably the most exciting fighter in the UFC..anyways...I am a big Machida fan and would like to see him fight for the title if he wins against Thiago. But, I can understand matchmaking at the same time.

I think Silva's problem is that nobody has really challenged him. Most people I know that know MMA are excited about him and my brother who's not big on MMA is always down to see a Silva fight. But I think for most people, seeing Silva fight at Middleweight is paying 45 bucks for 45 seconds.

**Pokeystotle** · 01-08-2009, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TeaTree

I hope it doesn't take that long. The guys already had like 5 ot 6 fights in the UFC. I think if he beats Silva then he earns a shot.

I see Rampage getting a shot first mainly because ex-champs are typically granted title shots after two wins removed from losing the belt. Seeing as how Rampage is going to fight sooner than Machida will, it could mean that Rampage is in line first. Still I think Machida will get the nod in the coming months. I wouldn't be suprised if he was a part of a title fight by the end of the year at all.

nitten style · 01-08-2009, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jayacheess

who has he beat??????your joking right

He has not faced chuck, he has not faced wanderlei, he has not faced forrest or rampage. These are the current elite fighters in the LHW. A washed up TIto does not count. He has yet to prove himself. The same exact thing was said about Rashad, even though he was undefeated. He proved himself by beating a TOP NOTCH forest and chuck liddel. Add to the fact that Rashad is still undefeated. Tito in his current state could never beat Rashad or Forest.

Lyoto hasn't even faced Jardine. So no he has not proven himself.

Kaploop · 01-08-2009, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by CRuck1980

I think Silva's problem is that nobody has really challenged him. Most people I know that know MMA are excited about him and my brother who's not big on MMA is always down to see a Silva fight. But I think for most people, seeing Silva fight at Middleweight is paying 45 bucks for 45 seconds.

That's true. It feels like a given, him winning.

"Who is he fighting? Irvin? Win. Easy."

"He's fighting Cote? Sucks for Pat" (even tho that fight didn't go nearly as expected for a lot of people)

"Thales Leites? Really? OK, then"

For me he is one of the best fighters to show people when introducing them to MMA. Throw on a Anderson Silva highlight and a Fedor highlight, and they generally get very interested very quickly.

Kaploop · 01-08-2009, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by nitten style

He has not faced chuck, he has not faced wanderlei, he has not faced forrest or rampage. These are the current elite fighters in the LHW. A washed up TIto does not count. He has yet to prove himself. The same exact thing was said about Rashad, even though he was undefeated. He proved himself by beating a TOP NOTCH forest and chuck liddel. Add to the fact that Rashad is still undefeated. Tito in his current state could never beat Rashad or Forest.

Lyoto hasn't even faced Jardine. So no he has not proven himself.

Over the past 5 fights, I'm not sure how you can say he hasn't proven himself.

Wanderlei is 1-4 with a win over Jardine.
Chuck is 2-3 with wins over Tito and Wanderlei
Jardine is 3-2 with wins over Forrest, Chuck, and Vera (who hasn't done squat at 205)
Lyoto is 5-0 with wins over Hoger, Heath (who was undefeated at the time), Kaz Nakamura, Soko (who was coming in with two huge wins over elite fighters Little Nog and Arona) and Tito.

Now, I'm not trying to discredit Jardine, Chuck, or Wandy; they are great fighters. But which is better, fighting top comp and losing (sometimes winning), or beating everyone you fight decisively?

210topdog · 01-08-2009, 09:17 AM

i don't think evans doesn't have the sprinter speed to catch him. ufc needs to bring in bolt to stop him.

Keeper101 · 01-08-2009, 09:21 AM

Its much better to evade a punch than to absorb it. Of course, everyone thinks he is a coward for not standing there and taking it. I think Machida would take Evans.

210topdog · 01-08-2009, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaploop

Over the past 5 fights, I'm not sure how you can say he hasn't proven himself.

Wanderlei is 1-4 with a win over Jardine.
Chuck is 2-3 with wins over Tito and Wanderlei
Jardine is 3-2 with wins over Forrest, Chuck, and Vera (who hasn't done squat at 205)
Lyoto is 5-0 with wins over Hoger, Heath (who was undefeated at the time), Kaz Nakamura, Soko (who was coming in with two huge wins over elite fighters Little Nog and Arona) and Tito.

Now, I'm not trying to discredit Jardine, Chuck, or Wandy; they are great fighters. But which is better, fighting top comp and losing (sometimes winning), or beating everyone you fight decisively?

you say well vera hasn't done squat at 205? well soko didn't do squat in the ufc. thank you for post machid"s HUGE wins so we can all see how he has not done anything to earn a title shot. if he is gonna fight subpar competetion at least FINISH THEM!!

rodrigues · 01-08-2009, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CRuck1980

I think Silva's problem is that nobody has really challenged him. Most people I know that know MMA are excited about him and my brother who's not big on MMA is always down to see a Silva fight. But I think for most people, seeing Silva fight at Middleweight is paying 45 bucks for 45 seconds.

I dont think so

i think its cause he is a brasilian, meaning he is a foreigner(that cant speak english) and all that shit dont sell ppv at all

StikyIcky · 01-08-2009, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Squarechoke

Biased judges had nothing to do with Rampage losing since he would have lost as long as the judges knew the rules. That said I agree that Rampage has a better claim to the title shot since he was the champ and has beaten a higher ranked opponent than Machida in their last respective fights.

Forrest should have never been champ as he never won the fight. He did not even earn the title shot. Evans should not have the belt.

TUF bullshit messed up a very competitive division where real contenders are being stalled and TUF winners are being favored.

Both Lyoto and Thiago are more established than Evans & Griffin. Both Lyoto & Thiago deserve a run at the title, but instead, the TUF products are being favored.