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Old 08-16-2007, 02:16 PM   #1 (permalink)

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Krazy Horse & Joe Boxer to fight again long article

This seems to be a pretty good grudge match

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LOS ANGELES (Aug. 16, 2007) – To infer that “Krazy Horse’’ Charles Bennett and Victor “Joe Boxer” Valenzuela do not like each other would be an understatement of classic proportions.

“I don’t want to say I hate the guy because the word hate is a little harsh, but I definitely don’t like him,’’ said “Krazy Horse” (18-13-2), of Ocala, Fla.

“He thinks he beat me in our first fight. I am going to hush ‘Joe Boxer’ up. All he is doing is using my name to try to make himself look good and to make a name for himself. He’s trying to take the spotlight away from me, but that’s impossible.

“I look forward to kicking his butt, shutting him up and showing him what a real beating is. He is not at my level, so why does he continue to talk like he is? He’s made this fight personal, very personal.

“Now that I think about it, yeah, well, I pretty much hate him,’’

Offered “Joe Boxer” (5-2-2), of Covina, Calif.: “I can’t stand ‘Krazy Horse.’ He’s got a big mouth. He got a gift against me and he knows it. Anybody who saw our first fight knows I beat him. I wanted a rematch right away. The only reason he didn’t lose was because the referee didn’t stop it.

“He was done, fried, toasted. Any other fight, the ref stops it. I plan on shutting him up once and for all. Fighting on his home turf, I don’t have faith I can win a decision, so I will be going for a knockout for sure. I am really going to try and knock him out this time around. I have waited a long time for this.

“It’s just too bad ‘Krazy Horse’ was in jail and we couldn’t fight June 22 as scheduled. Actually, I think he went to jail on purpose. No matter how he acts or what he says, he doesn't want to fight me.’’


The fighters – surprise, surprise – have been keen to get back at each other since their initial encounter on Aug. 5, 2005, at San Jacinto, Calif., ended in a controversial, highly disputed draw.

At the finish of a two-round fight, “Krazy Horse’’ lay flat on his back – seemingly unconscious.

“He was totally finished,’’ said Valenzuela,’’ who faces Bennett in the main event of ShoXC: Elite Challenger Series on Saturday, Aug. 25, at Vicksburg, Miss., on SHOWTIME. “He couldn’t get up. Two rounds and ‘Krazy Horse’ had nothing left.’’

“I was not unconscious, just overheated, tired and exhausted because I wasn’t in shape,’’ insisted Bennett. “The question is, did ‘Joe Boxer’ beat me unconscious? If he thinks that way he's dreaming; he is not from planet earth. This time I am going to leave no doubt.

“I let it go after our first fight, but ‘Joe Boxer’ didn’t. So, now, it has become what it is. No way am I lacking motivation for this fight. In fact, I am motivated already. I am not drinking. I am a clean machine. I am in shape. I will knock him out in three and a half minutes.’’

The fighters’ verbal exchanges began almost immediately after the first fight and quickly escalated into a full-fledged war of words.

Tension reached a near crescendo after a May 2006 show in Laughlin, Nev. After each had won his match and swapped sarcastic syllables at the post-fight press conference, they nearly came to blows at the host fight hotel’s bar and casino.

“Actually, we had our little differences before the first fight, then we fought and I got the raw end of the deal,’’ Valenzuela said. “I have been waiting for a rematch since. He’s been trying to provoke me for two years. He likes to take digs at people; he taunts you. Every time I see him, he is smiling, showing me his fists, talking crap.

“I don’t know who he thinks he is, or who he thinks he is talking to or messing with. I can’t think of any grudge match that compares to this. It is just too bad it didn’t happen in June.’’

As unlikely as it may have seemed a year ago, “Krazy Horse” has become a bonafide MMA superstar. He has won four in a row, all by knockout.

“It’s a wonder what one victory on SHOWTIME can do for you,’’ he said. “My life has changed a lot ever since. I am more serious than I have ever been. There is a lot of money to be made. Guys are staying on top of me. I have people believing in me. That means a lot.

“For anyone to think I could one day become a star is unbelievable.’’

“Krazy Horse’’ scored a jaw-breaking, first-round knockout over KJ Noons in the first MMA bout ever shown on premium television—the SHOWTIME premiere of EliteXC (Feb.10, 2007, in Southaven, Miss.).

“Some people still think I landed a lucky punch,’’ Bennett said. “I am not getting the credit I deserve. But I know the only way to get credit is too keep winning. Going into that fight, they thought I was old and done. But the Noons’ fight only made me stronger. It rejuvenated me.’’

The shocking victory could not have come at a more opportune time for the second oldest of 12 children, who has literally been on his own since age 14.

“I grew up in Florida, but mostly everywhere and nowhere,” said Bennett. “One thing I have been trying to do is find all my brothers and sisters because I don’t know all of them. Our mom and dad were both drug addicts. They took mom away when I was five.

“My whole life has been a fight, a survival test. I live day by day. I didn’t make it through high school. I graduated from jail. According to the computer, I have been arrested 22 times since 1997. I’ve been busted for marijuana five times. But I’m clean now and ready to fight.

“I understand the opportunity presented to me in EliteXC and I’m going to make the best of it. I am going to show everybody. Until recently, nobody believed in me. I am going to shock them. For me to overcome so much, to look back at where I was to where I am today, is truly unbelievable.

“Can you believe it? I may become the face of EliteXC!’’

Regarding their first fight, Bennett says “I thought I beat ‘Joe Boxer’ -- and after watching the tape, I knew for sure I did. But I can’t argue with the judges’ call.

“The difference this time is that it is going to be a clean KO. I won’t be in a rush to take care of business. I learned against Noons I have to be more patient and pace myself.’’

Said Valenzuela: “He can try and pace himself all he wants, but I am going to be taking the fight right at him. He couldn’t make it past two rounds the first time. What makes you think he can go three?

“For him to agree that our fight was a draw; well, what does that tell you? He knows he lost. Everyone knows he lost.’’

“Joe Boxer” moved five years ago from Covina to Rancho Cucamonga, Calif., where he trains at Millennia Gym. He got his nickname shortly after going to a gym where the vast majority of athletes specialized in jiu-jitsu.

“Practically every one except me was into jiu-jitsu,’’ he said. “I grew up in La Puente (Calif.) in the world of boxing. My uncles fought; one was an established pro who was killed on a flight on the way to a fight. I was always holding mitts. I grew up in a gym.’’

Valenzuela will be trying to fight his way back into the win column on Aug. 25. On the June 22 EliteXC/Strikeforce event in San Jose, Calif., Valenzuela lost by first-round submission (heel hook) to late substitute Edson Berto, who was subbing for “Krazy Horse.”

“I’m not going to make excuses, but for my last fight I was training for a stand-up guy. But when “Krazy Horse” couldn’t, or wouldn’t, fight me, they threw me in with Berto on just a couple days’ notice.

“At the time, I knew nothing about Berto, but everybody I talked to said he fought stand-up. When he came at me with knees and kicks, he caught me off-guard. I wasn't prepared for him to be diving in.

“I thought Berto would stand and bang, which is what I want to do. I want to stand and bang and please the crowd. Nobody wants to watch guys rolling around. But I got surprised. I won’t be surprised on Aug. 25. I didn’t show my best against Berto. I will on Aug. 25.”

“Krazy Horse,” who cleared legal trouble in Florida, was cage-side on the night of the fight in Santa Ynez, Calif., and had some choice words for Valenzuela after the fight.

“This guy thinks he can hang with me and he loses to Edson Berto in 47 seconds? You have to be kidding, right?” said “Krazy Horse.”

“What a class act and total sportsman,” said “Joe Boxer’’ sarcastically. “He gives new meaning to the word ‘tasteless.’ I can’t wait to get him in the cage.’’

Valenzuela feels he is a much better fighter than the one “Krazy Horse’’ faced first time around.

“For sure I am very confident,’’ he said. “When we fought before it was only my second MMA fight. I was still really just learning. I was basically a boxer with no ground skills -- well, maybe a little, but I am much more improved now.”
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Old 08-16-2007, 02:25 PM   #2 (permalink)

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No one but me wnts to see this fight.
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Krazy Horse is the man...I hope he's muggin for the camera and totally disrespecting Joe by not even paying attention to him. Break his jaw, Bennett, break his fucking jaw.
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Looking forward to seeing the Horse step in the cage in two weeks.

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Again? I hope Krazy Horse actually shows up this time.
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Fuck......they should just let this thing die already.
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You gotta love Bennett, I mean he got a lucky flash knock down sucker punch in on Wandy backstage at Pride years ago. Yes it did happen, there are thread's here with audio from people who were around when it happens. But any ways, he gets this wildly lucky punch out of nowhere and now claims he wants a legit fight against Wandy.

Obviously it will never happen, but when he says it I believe it's more than words. Bennett actually think's he can bang against Wandy. How can you not respect that heart? Even if he sounds crazy as shit saying it. Dude has huge balls and I don't think he's scared to face anyone.

he's entertaining and hilarious. Let him & Page handle commentary for an entire UFC PPV. It would be totally classic. Page would be cracking jokes left and right, Bennett would be saying he could knock out Silva (both of them) Liddell, hell anyone fighting he'd call them out. I'd pay for that PPV for sure.
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I like Krzy Horse for the show. He really is one dimensional otherwise
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