Karo should be ashamed for treating Gokor like he has

[SouthGuy]

all history

[Jack Sparrow]

Gokor should train another fighter and ask him to beat the shit out of the greedy

[nok_u_out]

yeah, i heard this story a while back- its pretty messed up what he did. that is why i was hoping he would get destroyed by other fighters and crawl back too gokor.

[TheMaster]

Compared to Gokor Chivichyan, Karo is nothing more than a gnat in fighting terms. He should show respect to the people that taught him. Anyone who doesn't is a disgrace to Martial arts/Judo.

[zipster]

Originally Posted by TheMaster

Compared to Gokor Chivichyan, Karo is nothing more than a gnat in fighting terms. He should show respect to the people that taught him. Anyone who doesn't is a disgrace to Martial arts/Judo.

agreed

[Plissken]

There's 2 sides to every story, thanks for the info. Just wonder what the median story is.

[Lebowski420]

Originally Posted by Plissken

There's 2 sides to every story, thanks for the info. Just wonder what the median story is.

Agreed.

[TheMaster]

Interesting conversation with Gokor talking about training fighters, and his planned match with Rickson which never materialized.

Gokor : The problem with me is when the UFC came up, I taught 90% of the fighters. All the best fighters you see today, 90% of them I taught. They were at my school. The Shamrock family, Randy Couture’s been to my school. I can name any of the best guys you know today. Dan Severn was at my place before he was fighting with Shamrock. Everybody came up because most of the people know I have experience from far away and I fought a lot of places. I never lost any fight, and everybody started coming. I was thinking about entering the UFC but after that a lot of people started training with me and I felt like if I go fight there I was going to fight the people I’m teaching. At the same time I looked at it money-wise. I was making more money than anyone else fighting there just teaching them. I decided I would stay teaching, make more money and that would be better for me. This way you don’t get hurt, you don’t fight. I already did what I had to do.


Reporter : I’d like to talk a bit a bout a fight between you and Rickson Gracie that almost panned out but never fully did.

Gokor : They make a name out of it, a few people walk in my school with a limo and everything, dressed pretty good. They asked me if I wanted to fight with Rickson Gracie. I asked them, ‘Why do I have to fight him, what happened?’ They said, ‘We know how good you are and we know how Rickson Gracie is, and we want to know whose going to win.’ Well I say, ‘that’s a good question I would love to know too because Rickson is a tough guy.’ I don’t want to say I’m a tough guy or not, but I would love to, only if there’s good money. They say, ‘One million dollars, good enough?’ I say, ‘Perfect, where’s the contract?’ Well they give me a contract and I phoned them and I say, ‘we’re going to give Rickson the contract and then we come back to you and let you know when and what and things like that. So I wait almost a year, nothing comes up. This guy calls me back again and says, ‘Rickson doesn’t want to do it.’ I say, ‘Why doesn’t he want to do it?’ ‘Me and Gokor, we are friends.’ And I said listen, ‘Tell him I appreciate the friendship but for one million dollars we can go fight and still be friends.’ And they said, ‘well we are same stylists, he doesn’t want to fight with someone who’s the same stylist.’ I say, ‘well that’s a completely different story, I don’t know. I know he’s a tough guy.’ They call me a few days later: ‘after we talk about this he said that one million dollars is not enough, he needs more. I said, ‘Okay that’s your department.’ A month later they made it two million dollars. ‘Do you think you’d do it?’ I said, ‘Of course I’d do it.’ Well until today I am waiting for somebody to call me and they say Rickson doesn’t want to do it. I’m not really thinking why he doesn’t want to do it, but I think I can use the two million dollars. I’m in a yes or no position. I would love to do it. If anytime it’s happening, I need a deposit and also six months because I have to train. I’m not going to fight without getting myself ready. I’m training every day but I’m not training for tournament. My tournament training is completely different.

[SleepingTalon]

Yes, that story sounds very one sided. I'm sure Karo's version is a bit different. Either way, it's none of my business, and we'll never know what really happened because none of us were there.

[panda_strike2]

I know Gokor is a top teacher and everyone says he's a stud grappler, but I don't know if I buy the mystique of him never losing a match. He claims, among other styles, to be a practicioner of both Judo and wrestling. Those are well-organized Olympic sports. If you fight hundreds of times and never lose, how do you not find your way to the Olympics?