Kalib Starnes tests positive for marijuana, cocaine, heroin, and amphetamines

[Kung Fu Devotee]

Originally Posted by Croatia_K1

Rich franklin has Dan henderson coming up. We all know hendo has bricks in both hands... are you saying rich should pull out of the fight or go into the fight and run around for 15 minutes.


If you agree with what kalib did then you're worse then him.




Can you imagine Wanderlei silva coming onto a forum saying he ran cuz the other guy hits hard... this is obsurd from a professional fighter...

Rightly said...

[Kung Fu Devotee]

Originally Posted by Lemontreeloser

Maybe you can show us what you can do in there then. Let me know when your next fight is I'd love to watch it.

Does not change what he said being correct-you should STFU little boy...now...

[ItsThatWootWoot]

Originally Posted by gvarko

I estimate he owes each of us somewhere around $12. He shouldn't have to pay for the entire event, just his fight.

lol.
i was just kidding.....but yeah, 12 bucks sounds about right.

[Angry Canadian]

Originally Posted by RonJhun

Im sure that can be arranged

Haha I almost spit out my diet pepsi max*



*now with ginseng and caffeine

[D4mien]

Originally Posted by Kalib Starnes

I was never on any Montreal radio show. If anyone knows what radio show that I allegedly appeared on, or has any recording of it or any evidence of it whatsoever I would love to know about it. So far I've only heard rumors and allegations. I did not throw the fight, the fight was not a protest against the UFC.

I will say again what I've said before; I had the game plan of circling and moving to stay out of exchanges and to work off of my jab because he hits so hard, to avoid the clinch because he was very strong and I'd taken knees and elbows there in my previous fight, and to throw some kicks as the fight wore on.

I threw 35 punches in the first round and I would have thrown a lot more had I landed any of them, but I found him very difficult to hit and he was counter punching whenever I would step in, with one of those counter punches almost dropping me early. Most of my takedowns come out of the clinch and when I tried to switch it up and get position in the clinch to take him down I couldn't do it because he seemed much stronger than me.

In the second round it was more of the same except that he almost knocked me out again early which made me more hesitant to throw punches so I decided to throw some kicks and at about 2 minutes into round two I threw a low right roundhouse kick that hit his shin awkwardly and I broke my foot, which stopped me from throwing anymore kicks, other than a few tentative kicks with my left leg. **That is not an excuse for losing it is simply something that happened and for me to mention it I think is quite reasonable.

I found myself in a fight where I couldn't stand with the guy, he was awkward and he hit hard having almost knocked me out three times in the fight, I couldn't take him down and work my ground game (I got him down only once and just managed to land a few shots because he got up so fast), and so I felt like I could either keep moving or get knocked out. Then late in the third he started to mock me out of frustration, but really at that point, I was just a solidly beaten fighter who was trying not to get knocked out, and had fallen into a pattern that I couldn't get out of. It was the worst athletic performance of my life.

Afterword his cornerman was swearing at me and calling me names, I responded to him by calling him names and telling him that he should get in there and fight then, meaning fight in the UFC, not fight me. He apologized to me afterword I suppose realizing that he was out of line, and so did Nate and I know that they were both acting out of frustration and so I forgave them and apologized in return for losing my temper. I think it's rediculous that he be made into some kind of hero for mocking a guy that he just beat the crap out of, and I felt forced into retreating because he had such a good offense. I didn't choose to do it as some kind of protest. I did try to win that fight and I did show up to fight, I don't care what Dana White says, I just wasn't good enough on that day to do it. I have no excuses for losing the fight.

If you want a copy of my medical records the guys at Sherdog can contact me, or Primo at ATT and you'll be provided with that. I can't speak for anyone else, but I have never said that the UFC does not cover a fighters medical expenses, I'm dealing with their medical claims department right now regarding my broken foot and other injuries sustained at UFC 83, and up until this point they have honored their obligations.

I have as much right to discuss what fighters are paid as anyone else and I know a lot about the subject having fought for the organization in some capacity seven times. Believe me, you're paid if you win and tossed aside like garbage if you lose. Until these guys learn to market themselves the payouts are going to remain pathetic compared to boxing and the UFC's little traveling circus will roam from town to town with the billionaires raking in the cash while the fighters split up about five percent of the take between them.

What prompted me to discuss it were comments about it being wise to get knocked out as opposed to moving out of the way, apparently from brain injury advocates who've taken their own advice. I'm not retiring and I've already been offered more than I ever made at the UFC, which was $5,000 and $5000, plus $30000 fight of the night (which they gave me because I had no heart), plus an additional $25000 (because I don't belong in the UFC presumably). That's $65,000 you clever little monkeys, but remember that if I'd lost I would have walked away with a sweet $5000 and a kick in the ass, because they only pay the winners. The only problem with that is, somebody loses every time.

Here's a typical article from another website illustrating the type of thing that I get to deal with now. And I'll post some quotes from forums I've looked through after that. Such fine human beings are drawn to this sport. I can't wait to jump back in there and fight for your amusement!

Kalib Starnes: Go Fuck Yourself

By Michael Rome
Posted on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 06:07:42 PM EDT
There's a gigantic thread on Sherdog with a report on why Kalib Starnes did what he did. This of course could be be bullshit, but it is from a senior poster there and I believe it, and will of course take this down if it turns out it isn't true. I won't apologize though because no matter what his explanation I still hate him:

Basically he sets the record straight and backs it up with proof. As many of you know this was his last fight of the UFC contract and he has always voiced his dissatisfaction with his salary. Basically after the Kendall Grove fight where his rib was broken, UFC did NOT cover any medical bills even though it happened on the "work site".
He said that he is one of the many fighters who get injured and never compensated by the UFC. He was well aware that he was on the main card because it was Canada, and this being his last fight he decided to protest in the names of all underpaid fighters and screw over the UFC.
This is NO joke because he claimed that the only reason Dana White officially released the fight bonuses was in order to counter-act the public statement that Starnes is about to make or would have made. However, since the 75k fight bonuses were disclosed Kalib's martyr actions may not be as significant.

Nevertheless, expect an official statement later this week as his gym is holding a official press conference on Wednesday. We all know that the "real" Kalib Starnes would have never fought the way he did and luckily there IS an explanation.

I can think of FIFTY BILLION better ways to make this point. What a cocksucker. How about try to win and then get on the microphone and point it out to everyone. I hope this is true because I want to hate him even more. According to SDS on Sherdog, he is retiring, which I guess is decent news.

lol

[Croatia_K1]

Originally Posted by Lemontreeloser

Maybe you can show us what you can do in there then. Let me know when your next fight is I'd love to watch it.

Sure PM me your address and you can watch my next fight live, it also comes with free porn when I fuck your mother and sister.. I was gonna say girlfriend too but we know which way you swing.



oh and FYI I've done amateur boxing.. I know it is fuck all compared to being in the ring with a professional fighter. I weigh 96 kg.. I'm 4 kg over my weight class so I fight in superheavyweight which is 93+ instead of cutting weight to fight at 93. Should I quit every time theres a 120 kg guy chasing me down with bombs simply because he hits harder? Fuck that Kalib fought someone his own weight, and on paper his own skill level. He ran and I don't beleive for a second that he had a broken foot. Look at the GIF i posted on the previous page. How the hell do you sidestep that fast with a broken foot?

[foghorne023]

mad respect for coming on line and giving your side. but you cant expect the ufc to rival the pay scale of boxing. at least not yet. thats like someone playing arena football and expecting to get nfl money.

[edgewise]

Originally Posted by Lemontreeloser

Maybe you can show us what you can do in there then. Let me know when your next fight is I'd love to watch it.

Where does the logic that only a fellow pro fighter has the right to make a comment on Starnes' performance come from? All the people suggesting this should be sure to remember that next time they're watching baseball, hockey, or football. Be sure not to say anything negative or have an opinion on a player's actions during the game unless of course you're also a pro player because otherwise you just don't know what you're talking about apparently.

How about from now on the fan base for UFC contains only fellow pro fighters...oh no wait that will bankrupt the business. Guess fans will be around for ahwile after all.

[asnelso]

You really don't have the right to be offended that some of us were not ammused by your fight, after all, we are not the one's who chose to be a pro athlete and in the spotlight. I never heard any posts about how much it sucks to get recognized, or sponsored, so take the good with the bad. If a MLB pitcher is getting hit hard he doesn't just decide to start walking ppl because it is smarter then getting hit does he? Help me understand how you telling us that you got paid more then most of the country does in a year, for a fifteen minutes of work and now you are calling us monkeys for making a judgement. That is a discrase to mayhem, monkeys is a term on endeerment, not a deragoritory one. Why don't you just not try to explain yourself and fade away, or you could send me out a check for 11.00$ because I paid 55.00$ to watch five fights, and I only got four.

[Lemontreeloser]

[quote=Kalib Starnes;22693263]

I found myself in a fight where I couldn't stand with the guy, he was awkward and he hit hard having almost knocked me out three times in the fight, I couldn't take him down and work my ground game (I got him down only once and just managed to land a few shots because he got up so fast), and so I felt like I could either keep moving or get knocked out. Then late in the third he started to mock me out of frustration, but really at that point, I was just a solidly beaten fighter who was trying not to get knocked out, and had fallen into a pattern that I couldn't get out of. It was the worst athletic performance of my life.

Watching from home it definitely looked like you were caught in a rut. I sympathize with that feeling. When you just keep doing the wrong thing and you don't want to be doing it but there's some sort of mental barrier there keeping you from doing anything differently. By the 3rd round it was pretty obvious that this was happening to you and I've seen how disappointed fighters are after fighting this kind of fight.

All I can tell you about the criticism is that you should try to shake it off. You have to realize that you're dealing with a very large number of people who want to be able to come up with some justification for why they're tougher than a UFC fighter. You just get to be the guy that everyone is targeting right now.

Keep us all posted on what you decide to do next.