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Old 04-29-2008, 09:58 AM   #671 (permalink)

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Kalib has now done the right thing. He has taken the most honorable position, admitted to his flaws, given props to his opponent and cleared the record about "protests."

Let's move on.
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Old 04-29-2008, 09:58 AM   #672 (permalink)

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Gotta respect you coming forward like this, just disappointed you didn't adapt to the situation and find a way, most likely the ground especially if your foot was broken.
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I think the point that's getting missed here in all this nut hugging is that this is his chosen profession. It isn't fight club, and it's not like some bully called him out and forced him to fight. It was his decision to do so. And people paid good money to be there in person and on pay per view. And he ran, for three rounds.

The criticism is warranted, just as football players and any other sports figures are fair game to the ticket buying fans. What is a running back fell down before he could get tackled on each play? Would you swing from his nuts if he came on here to explain his strategy in doing so? No, you would not.

And spare me the internet warrior bullshit. Just as he has a chosen profession, so do I. And I bet I'd come a lot closer to beating him at his game than he would at mine.

It was a terrible, terrible performance and hopefully will mark the end of his career, or at least mark the end of people putting up their hard earned money to see him run from a fight.
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Most people here dont even train, so they have no idea what its like to fight, or fight injured. 90% of people here would drop down and cry if they would get their leg broken.

Your last couple of fights were good and exiting, this one wasnt but no way you deserve all this crap that people are giving to you.
for what some ppl paid for tickets, and other ppv, its not ridiculous for them to expect ppl to fight through injuries
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:11 AM   #677 (permalink)

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Oh screw you, screw Kaleb Starnes and screw the mods if they think my post above was fighter bashing and ban me. I don't give a shit.

As for your points above, they are beyond retarded.

1. He survived only by NOT FIGHTING. He wasted everybody's time when Kaleb himself stated that by the 2nd round he knew he couldn't take him down, couldn't hang in the clinch, and couldn't strike with him, and had a broken foot. That screams outclassed to me. The proper thing to do in that situation would be to concede the fight, verbally submit, or at the very least quit on the stool after the second due to injury and save us all from another round of non-fighting. The third round was totally pointless and a complete waste of airtime. This sport is not about surviving to the final bell and if Kaleb thinks that, he should seriously consider a career change.

2. Nate didn't find easy prey? Do you understand what a 30-24 score means? The only reason he didn't knock him out was that Kaleb ran, ran and ran some more. That's what people with broken spirits do, and the ref should have called at least two timeouts to reprimand him and deduct points for timidity and avoiding contact. Why on earth he didn't I have no idea, since the timidity clause was tailor-made for a fight like that.

Another thing: Kaleb says he's already found a promoter willing to pay him more than Zuffa did. If it's true and I seriously doubt it, cool for him. I know I won't be watching and I doubt many others will.
Yes, he was outclassed. It happens in other sports all the time. What kind of sport do you watch where an opponent or a team quits if the score gets too lopsided? Is it a sport where it is theoretically possible win at any point no matter what the score at the moment is?

All I know is that if I throw in a towel I can't win. If I hang in there then MAYBE I can find a way to win, or the other guy will find a way to lose. I think Kalib did the right thing, and I don't understand the level of criticism he's been getting. As far as I am concerned, Nate completely outclassed him in that fight, and that's that.

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I have to say that I was disapointed with the fight and even more disapointed with the attempted explination on here.

As many people have mentioned if you are a professional fighter then you might expect to get hit hard. Look at the beating your fellow canadian took on the same card, and he still kept fighting, still kept pushing himself still kept trying to win against all the odds even though he was totally dominated and hurt.

Lets make it clear I would run and cry like a girl before getting knocked out and wouldnt even think of getting into the cage but what you put "he hit hard", "I broke my foot", "I was nearly knocked out", all sound like excuses.

You are a great athlete no doubt, and I am just confused with the fight and your response.
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