Kalib Starnes tests positive for marijuana, cocaine, heroin, and amphetamines

[Boganzo]

Originally Posted by RonJhun

You know everyone has been saying shit as to why tha guy did what he did and what his excuses where, people where making up all kinds of shit with out even having the full story. The guy takes his time to come on here and tell his side of the story with out taking anything away from Nate and most of these people from the past couple of weeks come on here and say the same tired shit they were saying before, if you have the facts now sing a new fucking song. I also promise all of you that are saying youll neva watch kalib fight again are full of shit. If one of his fights happens to be on TV ur not gonna change the channel. Also this whole topic has been beat to death let it go already.

Don't let these people get to you. Kalib was respectful to his opponent and the UFC in light of this situation, however I don't think Kalib is really respecting himself or the fans by giving excuses for his performance. Don't try and claim he's not giving excuses. A person who doesn't give excuses just says sorry, and that's it. It's cool that he's trying to set the record straight, but he's going about it in a weird way.

Of course though, no matter what he does, there will be some people that respect him for it and some that hate him for it.

[Gotti McCarran]

First off, that fight was terrible. It really wasn't as bad as people made it out to be though. Yeah, you should have thrown in the towel, that's right, but I understand that without that broken rib incident I bet you would have. That's what you get from idiots for trying to learn from mistakes. They would have ripped you the same way on here had you thrown in the towel I am 100% sure.

Kalib, the truth of the matter is that you're just being hated for being intelligent and self aware. People just hate real men basically.

The more you are gonna talk about this the more ammo they get. The other fighter dude in here was right. Move on, get some wins and the UFC don't want you? Well work your way up to the major league one more time and fight for HD-Net then.

And Nate Quarry is super undervalued on here. The guy is one of the rare guys that have strength, power and coordination as well as technique. He'll pose problems to anybody that's not an elite striker with a power, speed and accuracy advantage.

This sport is no longer about being a skilled fighter. It's about being the best athlete in your weightclass while being as skilled as possible. Had you had 3 times the pop on your jab, then Quarry wouldn't have kept coming in disrespecting your striking like that. If you had more power, you'd move around faster which would mean, faster retreat, plant your feet and bang Quarry up coming in much like Rich Franklin did. I know you got the timing. unfortunately, your 80% power shots don't stop a guy like Quarry and staying in the pocket left you wiith a huge disadvantage in terms of power in strikes and also Quarry had the body to take your best shots and you couldn't take his. I can see you got technical boxing skills. These guys on here can't take that shit away from you.

You said it best yourself when you said Quarry seemed to be much stronger than you. Well that was the main difference here. You got away against Leben, which by the way is a great win for anybody, because you had the reach advantage and you were quicker. You managed to move back and out of the way, plant your feet and hit him hard and stay elusive like that. Quarry took that away when he wasn't only stronger, but also had a much better power to weight ratio enabling him to move just as fast as you did. His strikes hurt with those 80% shots you can get off while moving around. Seemingly yours don't hurt a high level athlete that is willing to trade shots. There was no getting away and planting your feet in that fight. Quarry kept the pressure on you, like Hendo, Randy, Lindland,....Quest guys...do to their opponents. This game plan is tailor made for beating technical guys that are outgunned in terms of stength and conditioning. I don't know if you can move down a weightclass or what, but you are outmatched in the S&C department, not in the skill department.

I would love for you to find a knowledgeable powerlifter (not the guy with the drugs that knows what's best [those are good for technique and balancing training], because he has done it, the book nerd type [the ones that really really study up on performance] that is hell of strong for his weight) or even better a high level weightlifting coach with booksmarts.

You need someone that takes your strength game to another level and starts developing you as an athlete for real. Get to it now and in a year you'll already have gained like 50% strength. In the beginning it will slow you down a little bit, but keep stretching and stuff and it'll all turn around soon enough. Weight training does not make you slow. Lifting slow makes you slow. To get strength levels up you need to lift slow at first. That's where the misconception comes from. Once your maximum strength levels start going up which happens quite fast really (much faster then picking up good boxing habits for example), you'll need to swithc to power training like weightlifting and plyometrics. I can bet you 100 bucks that depth jumps and stuff never really worked that well for you? Am I right? You need to get a ground stock first like maximum strength levels up, then you follow through with power training and lastly the closer the fight gets the more you'll have to get away from weights. That's when the new found power will translate to more speed throughout all movements. For better whole body coordination you'll need whole body lifts at high intensity meaning with high pwoer output. This is why I say to get with a weightlifting coach, they understand how to structure training in phases to make you better. If you want an analogy, you wouldn't start a kid boxing out with combinations off of body shots while circling away or something a Roy Jones can get away with. You teach them how to get a fast and stiff jab, how to turn the wrists. You teach them basic foot movement, etc. It's the same with strength traing. Too many people emulate high level athletes doing endless depth jumps and medicine ball throws. This only works for genetically gifted guys, the others will have to progress from strength through power to speed. Working explosive speed will do nothing without the strength base. It'll only get you injured.

On a side note, I still like you. You got balls. You're a smart dude. You got technique. You didn't do the wrong thing in this fight. Ain't nothing you could have done. You shouldn't have taken that fight. You aren't there yet, which is tough to realize considering you got such great technical skills. they make up for a lot, but Quarry is headed up to contender rankings soon enough and needs to just fix hiss defense and he'll be at the top of the heap. He is very underrated since losing to Franklin. For the next time you fight at that level, you'll just need to get your strength up (Athleticism is largely based on this. This is absolutely true), then look at the amazing progress in power and speed and let that give you the heart you need to shut off that brain at times and go through the motions with trust in yourself. It ain't the heart you are lacking.

Big props for coming on here again.

[detroitnouveau]

Personally, I can't fault you at all for the performance and I am impressed that you came on here to talk about it despite all of the overwhelming hate you've received.

But, this does bring up the fact that I wish that the UFC would televise the best fights. If a fight like this happens, it seems like there would have been a way to televise one of the fights on the undercard instead, then the fans watching at home would get to see a more competitive fight.

[GROUNDnPOUNDya]

Originally Posted by RonJhun

You know everyone has been saying shit as to why tha guy did what he did and what his excuses where, people where making up all kinds of shit with out even having the full story. The guy takes his time to come on here and tell his side of the story with out taking anything away from Nate and most of these people from the past couple of weeks come on here and say the same tired shit they were saying before, if you have the facts now sing a new fucking song. I also promise all of you that are saying youll neva watch kalib fight again are full of shit. If one of his fights happens to be on TV ur not gonna change the channel. Also this whole topic has been beat to death let it go already.

Ugh, the whole "when was the last time you fought in an octagon" comments have got to go! Talk about lame... If someone pays money for a product or service, you better believe they have EVERY right to critique what they get! I mean jesus christ... my mom bought a vaccuum cleaner the a month ago and it stopped working recently. She complained about how crappy it was... you know what I didn't say to my mom cause it would have been absolutely retarded... "Hey Mom, well when was the last time you built a vaccuum... I bet you never even tried to build a vaccuum!" Give me a F&%$ing break dudes...

[borinquen]

Man... as difficult a situation you were in, the problem remains is that the perception of you running, running and running will not go away. No matter what you say or which forum you use to explain away the situation, you're biggest fight now is to overcome that perception.

The reality of a broken foot is trumped by the reality of millions who saw you practically do nothing but run. Moreover, the reality of a bunch of pissed off people who paid good money for the perception of 'nothing.'

[mma_genius]

That fight was an embarrassment. He ran because he admittedly was afraid of Quarry's power. End of thread.

People have to deal with injuries during fights all the time. Boo hoo hoo starnes. I will never purchase another PPV with any org that you are scheduled to appear on.

[JordanLUFC]

I can distinctly remember asking you a question on these forums, months back, about UFC paying medical expenses, and you said that they didn't pay for them.

Edit, i'm lying and mistaken

[Camwi]

Originally Posted by RonJhun

You know everyone has been saying shit as to why tha guy did what he did and what his excuses where, people where making up all kinds of shit with out even having the full story. The guy takes his time to come on here and tell his side of the story with out taking anything away from Nate and most of these people from the past couple of weeks come on here and say the same tired shit they were saying before, if you have the facts now sing a new fucking song. I also promise all of you that are saying youll neva watch kalib fight again are full of shit. If one of his fights happens to be on TV ur not gonna change the channel. Also this whole topic has been beat to death let it go already.

I agree that the thread should be closed and stickied. But until then, the people posting are keeping the thread up so more people can see what Kalib said.

[BODY_ARTS_GUY]

I've seen dozens of Boxing matches where fighters employ the same strategy and the fans/media do not react this vehemently.

Although I was disappointed in the fight w/ Starnes/Quarry (going in I thought this would be a war). I was actually more disappointed by an out of Shape Lutter and Charles McCarthy's goofball tactics.

[Troy Canfield]

Just something to think about. If you were fighting and broke your foot, at the same time you know your being beat. Do you risk getting KTFO for $5,000. or do you accept defeat and walk away with the money. Some may say risk it and go for the KO, Its not that easy to get a one punch KO with a broken foot. You need to put a lot of weight into your punch in order to Mike Tyson the fight. UFC needs to up the anti or this is going to happen more often.