Kalib Starnes tests positive for marijuana, cocaine, heroin, and amphetamines

[Gatorman]

Takes some serious balls to fight first of all then get on here and defend your perfomance. Thanks for the explanation.

[Boganzo]

Originally Posted by RonJhun

I think this should be closed. He said his piece, and that should be it.

Yeah. Best case scenario, Kalib just rethinks some of his old mentality and refocuses himself. No one is perfect and he's not a bad guy or a bad fighter. But this time is critical in his career if he is to make it out of this. I dunno if bullshitting people over sherdog is a step in the right direction.

[NYC4MMA]

A broken foot happens, I have seen it several times in k1, and the fighter threw in the towel (as opposed to just running in circles.) I would think that a hurt fighter would get aggressive and try for the KO as opposed to sprinting. For a guy with a broken foot you sure did an awful lot of running. Seriously, I have seen hundreds of fights and that was one of the worst.

[thescrambler]

Originally Posted by 1000Fists

I think this is bullshit.

if you didn tthink you could win or you had a broken foot and felt like you couldnt continue whatsoever without an ounce of success, you should have threw in the towel and saved face.


you're performance and your "tude" both in and our of the ring have shown that you probably shouldnt be an MMA fighter.

When is the last time you fought in the octagon? You haven't a clue as to what the hell you are talking about. A fighter comes on Sherdog to explain his point of view and this is the respect you give him. A fighter never quits but you wouldn't know that because you aren't a fighter. A smart fighter also doesn't allow himself to get knocked out. Kalib was fighting in his home country and didn't want to "throw in the towel". Take your sorry ass comments somewhere else.

[GROUNDnPOUNDya]

Too much sympathy for Kalib in this thread... If you have the priveledge to fight in your hometown, the least you can do is put on a show. That doesn't necessarily mean winning, or even putting forth an effort that has a winning chance. If you would have just stepped up and exchanged, it is likely you would have been KO'd, but at least you wouldn't have lost all respect and your job. It was a pitiful performance with no excuse. Next time, just get knocked out... No one wants to pay money to see someone run around for 15 minutes. Good luck with whatever career move you decide to make.

[solid b'stard]

Originally Posted by Phaytaliss

to be fair, nate quarry was fucking on fire that night.

I think he'd have bested almost anyone in the division, the guy had came to kill someone. I think he could've beaten franklin that night.

hahahahahahahaha

i can't be bothered to check your previous posts for trolliness so i'll just assume mental retardation and laugh at the presumption of quarry beating franklin (who is to quarry what anderson is to him)

actually wait, nate "rock" quarry is that you there?

[Eisenkarl]

Originally Posted by etenightstar

I'M Canadian and have trained for a while and plan on fighting in MMA pretty soon and if I was fighting in the first PPV UFC show in my home country somewhere around the middle of that second round I would have realised I'm looking like a coward in front of my home country and I would have moved foward(broken foot and all) and engaged in standup with Quarry until one of us was knocked out.

Oh, that's what you WOULD do?

I think I WOULD jump off the ropes and catch Quarry with a flying reverse triangle/armbar or maybe shoot a fireball...If I were in Kalib's position.
Yeah...that's what I would do.

[Inca Beatdown]

Originally Posted by Kalib Starnes

I was never on any Montreal radio show. If anyone knows what radio show that I allegedly appeared on, or has any recording of it or any evidence of it whatsoever I would love to know about it. So far I've only heard rumors and allegations. I did not throw the fight, the fight was not a protest against the UFC.

I will say again what I've said before; I had the game plan of circling and moving to stay out of exchanges and to work off of my jab because he hits so hard, to avoid the clinch because he was very strong and I'd taken knees and elbows there in my previous fight, and to throw some kicks as the fight wore on.

I threw 35 punches in the first round and I would have thrown a lot more had I landed any of them, but I found him very difficult to hit and he was counter punching whenever I would step in, with one of those counter punches almost dropping me early. Most of my takedowns come out of the clinch and when I tried to switch it up and get position in the clinch to take him down I couldn't do it because he seemed much stronger than me.

In the second round it was more of the same except that he almost knocked me out again early which made me more hesitant to throw punches so I decided to throw some kicks and at about 2 minutes into round two I threw a low right roundhouse kick that hit his shin awkwardly and I broke my foot, which stopped me from throwing anymore kicks, other than a few tentative kicks with my left leg. **That is not an excuse for losing it is simply something that happened and for me to mention it I think is quite reasonable.

I found myself in a fight where I couldn't stand with the guy, he was awkward and he hit hard having almost knocked me out three times in the fight, I couldn't take him down and work my ground game (I got him down only once and just managed to land a few shots because he got up so fast), and so I felt like I could either keep moving or get knocked out. Then late in the third he started to mock me out of frustration, but really at that point, I was just a solidly beaten fighter who was trying not to get knocked out, and had fallen into a pattern that I couldn't get out of. It was the worst athletic performance of my life.

Afterword his cornerman was swearing at me and calling me names, I responded to him by calling him names and telling him that he should get in there and fight then, meaning fight in the UFC, not fight me. He apologized to me afterword I suppose realizing that he was out of line, and so did Nate and I know that they were both acting out of frustration and so I forgave them and apologized in return for losing my temper. I think it's rediculous that he be made into some kind of hero for mocking a guy that he just beat the crap out of, and I felt forced into retreating because he had such a good offense. I didn't choose to do it as some kind of protest. I did try to win that fight and I did show up to fight, I don't care what Dana White says, I just wasn't good enough on that day to do it. I have no excuses for losing the fight.

If you want a copy of my medical records the guys at Sherdog can contact me, or Primo at ATT and you'll be provided with that. I can't speak for anyone else, but I have never said that the UFC does not cover a fighters medical expenses, I'm dealing with their medical claims department right now regarding my broken foot and other injuries sustained at UFC 83, and up until this point they have honored their obligations.

I have as much right to discuss what fighters are paid as anyone else and I know a lot about the subject having fought for the organization in some capacity seven times. Believe me, you're paid if you win and tossed aside like garbage if you lose. Until these guys learn to market themselves the payouts are going to remain pathetic compared to boxing and the UFC's little traveling circus will roam from town to town with the billionaires raking in the cash while the fighters split up about five percent of the take between them.

What prompted me to discuss it were comments about it being wise to get knocked out as opposed to moving out of the way, apparently from brain injury advocates who've taken their own advice. I'm not retiring and I've already been offered more than I ever made at the UFC, which was $5,000 and $5000, plus $30000 fight of the night (which they gave me because I had no heart), plus an additional $25000 (because I don't belong in the UFC presumably). That's $65,000 you clever little monkeys, but remember that if I'd lost I would have walked away with a sweet $5000 and a kick in the ass, because they only pay the winners. The only problem with that is, somebody loses every time.

Here's a typical article from another website illustrating the type of thing that I get to deal with now. And I'll post some quotes from forums I've looked through after that. Such fine human beings are drawn to this sport. I can't wait to jump back in there and fight for your amusement!

Kalib Starnes: Go Fuck Yourself

By Michael Rome
Posted on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 06:07:42 PM EDT
There's a gigantic thread on Sherdog with a report on why Kalib Starnes did what he did. This of course could be be bullshit, but it is from a senior poster there and I believe it, and will of course take this down if it turns out it isn't true. I won't apologize though because no matter what his explanation I still hate him:

Basically he sets the record straight and backs it up with proof. As many of you know this was his last fight of the UFC contract and he has always voiced his dissatisfaction with his salary. Basically after the Kendall Grove fight where his rib was broken, UFC did NOT cover any medical bills even though it happened on the "work site".
He said that he is one of the many fighters who get injured and never compensated by the UFC. He was well aware that he was on the main card because it was Canada, and this being his last fight he decided to protest in the names of all underpaid fighters and screw over the UFC.
This is NO joke because he claimed that the only reason Dana White officially released the fight bonuses was in order to counter-act the public statement that Starnes is about to make or would have made. However, since the 75k fight bonuses were disclosed Kalib's martyr actions may not be as significant.

Nevertheless, expect an official statement later this week as his gym is holding a official press conference on Wednesday. We all know that the "real" Kalib Starnes would have never fought the way he did and luckily there IS an explanation.

I can think of FIFTY BILLION better ways to make this point. What a cocksucker. How about try to win and then get on the microphone and point it out to everyone. I hope this is true because I want to hate him even more. According to SDS on Sherdog, he is retiring, which I guess is decent news.

Kalib, from your first few paragraph, I understand that you had no response whatsoever from Quarry's arsenal - that's fine. Throw in the towel, like a lot of people here are suggesting? I am not sure if they'd do that in front of their home crowd, even if they were losing mercylessly like you were. PPV viewers and key warriors can say whatever the fuck they want in front of their TV and in front of their computer screens...

I can also tell you that I was completely disappointed in your performance primarily because I couldn't figure out what the hell was wrong with you during the fight. Nevertheless, now that you mention your broken foot I just don't see how you were able to backpedal so fast... I cannot relate because I've never fought with a broken foot.

Anyway, looks like you're already picking yourself up and best of luck.

[Lawyerbird]

Fair enough.

Good luck.

[Sean.]

I love how half of this thread is people saying "Ok well you're a professional fighter so you have bigger balls than I do, but if I was in your situation I would have gone down swinging." So let me get this straight, you are too scared to get into the cage and fight, but if you were in the cage fighting you would go down swinging.

That doesn't make any sense. I understand why you did what you did Kalib, if anything it sucks the most that you had to go through that. It must have been heartbreaking. You'll be back though, you're a tough guy and thats what you do.

EDIT - Its also not that difficult to understand that trotting backwards on your foot and smacking it as hard as you can against someone are two completely different things. Stop using that as a sign of how badly his foot was broken.