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Old 11-03-2009, 05:27 PM   #1 (permalink)

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Isn't JDS a bit overrated?

I don't understand how come this guy to the top ten of the heavyweight ranking of Sherdog. I mean ok, he's shown some SERIOUS power, but If I was a heavyweight right now, I'd be way more afraid of a Kongo, a Gonzaga, or a Carwin (who's a top ten, but ranked lower).

Right now, all that we know about his ground game is that he's got good trainers, but is that enough to make him a top ten?

I really don't understand what he's doing so high.
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Old 11-03-2009, 05:28 PM   #2 (permalink)

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He beat Werdum and CroCop
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Old 11-03-2009, 05:29 PM   #3 (permalink)

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The short answer is, Yes. As of now he is overrated, but he's so skilled and the matchups have worked soooo well in his favor that he is considered amazing. I think he should fight Herring to prove he can handle the aggressive ground fighting and unorthadox styles as well.
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Old 11-03-2009, 05:30 PM   #4 (permalink)

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Hes in the UFC, how could anyone in the UFC be over rated. Your starting to think with your brain TS, other sherdoggers will not approve.
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Old 11-03-2009, 05:31 PM   #5 (permalink)

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I don't understand how come this guy to the top ten of the heavyweight ranking of Sherdog. I mean ok, he's shown some SERIOUS power, but If I was a heavyweight right now, I'd be way more afraid of a Kongo, a Gonzaga, or a Carwin (who's a top ten, but ranked lower).

Right now, all that we know about his ground game is that he's got good trainers, but is that enough to make him a top ten?

I really don't understand what he's doing so high.
9-1 with stoppages of Werdum (Top 10 at the time) and Cro Cop and he's ranked #8. It's about accomplishments and he has enough to make him Top 10. Honestly, anywhere in the 8-10 range for him seems about right.
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Old 11-03-2009, 05:31 PM   #6 (permalink)
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he barely beat cro-crop.. i mean if he was really all that it woulda been tko, not relying on an eye injury at the end
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Old 11-03-2009, 05:32 PM   #7 (permalink)

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He has beaten Werdum who was top 5, which is better than what Carwin has done. Eventough that Werdum was in horrible shape.

Werdum weighted 256 lbs against JDS and only 228 lbs against Kyle in Strikeforce. I am not sure that JDS would beat Werdum again. But he has some serious skills and a great stand up. However I want to see if Gonzaga can test his ground game.
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Old 11-03-2009, 05:32 PM   #8 (permalink)
 
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The short answer is, Yes. As of now he is overrated, but he's so skilled and the matchups have worked soooo well in his favor that he is considered amazing. I think he should fight Herring to prove he can handle the aggressive ground fighting and unorthadox styles as well.
Are you effin' kidding me? What the hell would a win over 28-14 Heath Herring do other than make JDS even more overrated? Herring is garbage. He has not much of a threat standing up and his ground game is laughably bad. JDS needs to validate himself against a guy like Gabriel Gonzaga and sure enough that's exactly whats planned. GG is going to crush him.
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Old 11-03-2009, 05:32 PM   #9 (permalink)

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Overrated? Perhaps

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Old 11-03-2009, 05:36 PM   #10 (permalink)
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theres too many top contenders in ufc

mirko cro-cop
junior dos santos
big nogueira
frank mir
cheick kongo
cain velasquez
shain carwin
fabricio werdum
ben rothwell
gabriel gonzaga

itll take ages to pick lesnars next meal
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