[pSyKOaLby]

Wow that's funny because I said the exact same shit before as I was trying to educate the Pride nuthuggers. But now that it came from the horse's mouth....

[Wizkey]

Originally Posted by dkava

Sorry for so many of my own posts in a thread I have started, but I would just like to comment that I think it sux that you start a thread with something actually worth discussing and no one posts in it, but you start some BS thread with Fedor vs Sylvia or Pride > UFC for the thousandth time and it stays at the top of the board for days...Doesnt anyone actually wanna discuss something intersting for a change instead of "who is better" for the Nth time????

Welcome to the forums. Enjoy your stay.

[pSyKOaLby]

Originally Posted by jakeharris74

Sakakibara knows what kids around here don't. No matter what some of us have been saying about the U.S. market being the top of the food chain and hwo the UFC has the biggest advantage of all the MMA promotions for the future at the moment.. there is a huge opposition around here shouting how "MMA main stream in japan there is no way fighters will ever make money in U.S. like they do there.. They have action figures! durrh.."

At least the people in charge know whats going on, and hopefully PRIDE can keep afloat and make a dent so we will have increased fighter payouts, more crossover promoting, and better tailored cards.

We knew this shit from the start. It sucks being the only ones around who can think huh?

[Tiger_Style]

Originally Posted by dkava

Ummm...hasn't Wand already been in UFC? Way to show who is uneducated....IT DOESNT MATTER WHO HE FIGHTS FOR!!!

ya but in one match he got owned by vitor in under a minute, a decision loss to tito and in beat a no name in tony pettara. silva's ufc matches have imo no impact on his fame in america if anything they have very little. most ppl wen they research silva and see his fight with vitor they're gonna think he's a can and that chuck will kill him.

[TheFoo]

I think the american market has room for both organizations...

[mack the knife]

Originally Posted by jakeharris74

Sakakibara knows what kids around here don't. No matter what some of us have been saying about the U.S. market being the top of the food chain and hwo the UFC has the biggest advantage of all the MMA promotions for the future at the moment.. there is a huge opposition around here shouting how "MMA main stream in japan there is no way fighters will ever make money in U.S. like they do there.. They have action figures! durrh.."

At least the people in charge know whats going on, and hopefully PRIDE can keep afloat and make a dent so we will have increased fighter payouts, more crossover promoting, and better tailored cards.

This is true. MMA may be bigger in Japan, but it has peaked... there is very little potential left. Most folks in Japan know what Pride is. Some like it and some don't. On the other hand, in the US most people are still unaware of what the current MMA scene is.. this is a market yet to be tapped with heaps more potential.

[ame206350]

Originally Posted by belly

They probably are, and on their upcoming card there isn't a single fight that wold make a Pride or UFC ppv. It's filled with washed up and has-been fighters that nobody else wants.


Liddell will walk through Silva like he has every other fighter at 205. He's as good as it gets right now.

I'm a big fan of Liddell but nobody walks through Silva. This will be a tough fight and I really have no idea who will win. I know it won't be easy for either fighter though.

[m_hood115]

Unfortunately, most American MMA fans don't know who Pride is. When they see Wandy fighting in the UFC, they are not going to say "Hey, it is that Juan guy from Pride, he is a worldbeater". They are going to say "Who is this fucker, Chuck is gonna kill him". Dana isn't going to promote him as the Pride champ, that would just be stupid, he is going to promote him as a japanese star ready to jump in the big leagues, and the American (casual) fans are going to believe it. Very easy to make people believe something they have never seen, after all.

Even if Wandy walks through Chuck it isn't going to crush the UFC like many seem to think, it might give them a boost in American PPV buys. Most casual fans who watch the UFC PPV are going to think Wandy is a UFC fighter, so if he crushes Chuck, he will be that badass guy that crushed the Iceman. Doesn't mean Pride is going to get that big of a foothold in the US, will help, though, don't get me wrong.

[bunzo]

Good, I hope they come here and dismantle the UFC monopoly. It will create more options fo fans and fighters alike. I hope the WFA also continues as well. An open market is better for consumers.