[TsukinoKage]

Originally Posted by OpenYourMind26

if vera doesn't ko tim, he has a good chance of being ko'd himself..
Tim doesn't really suck, he has hand speed and power but i truly believe vera can dance in and out kinda like he did with mir..
thai clinch may-be vera's downfall..

You mistake being really big and having a huge reach to having "hand speed and power".

Vera's more well-rounded than you give him credit for. He can wrestle and he has very solid BJJ, so if he needs to take it to the ground, he will.

[Pop_N_Fresh]

Originally Posted by SeattleFightFan

I base this on shots Tim has taken, including that vicious one from AA that put him on his ass, and he got back up & KO'd Arlovski for his trouble.

So, it's obviously not a foregone conclusion that Vera can't or won't KO him, but for the sake of argument let's say he can't. How does Vera win? Tim couldn't get up from Randy, but he didn't do badly from his back against the Snowman. Vera might have an easier time getting Tim's back than Randy or Snowman, because he's quicker & lankier (more agile?), but I have a hard time thinking he's gonna "control" Tim on the ground the way Randy did.

Thoughts?

Know what your talking about befor you make a post... Vera broke his hand on Tims face in the first round. So by your logic if a guy with one hand cant knock Tim out then. as for taking Tim down other than the Couture fight (which he went in with a back that needed surgery) when has he been easly takin down?