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Old 01-31-2007, 06:56 PM   #1 (permalink)

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If Muay Chaiya was well known, striking in MMA would look totally different

If Muay Chaiya were well known, striking for MMA would look totally different

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The weaknesses of traditional MT, such as the stance leaving you open for takedowns, dropping the arm while kicking limiting you to kicking out of punching range, the reduced effectiveness of static blocking when not using gloves, and the reduced emphasis of punching because of the lesser effect of a gloved hand, and zero ground-game renders MT pretty much inefficient against a powerful wrestler who'd g and p to victory.

However, Muay Chaiya has a much lower and wider stance to prevent takedowns, kicks in a totally different way, without dropping the arms and lowering the body to the level of the kick to avoid punches, more comprehensive defensive techniques (incl crazy monkey, bob and weaving, parrying, and slipping), many more types of punches (incl vertical fists to punch inbetween gaurd, fake punch to whipping fist if the fighter is out of range and so on), along with a ground game incorporating sprawls, underhooks, standing joint locks, throws, submissions such as armbars, and also has a much bigger arsenal of elbows, which are under-utilised in MMA. I aim to take advantage of this and use Muay Chaiya as my primary striking style for MMA. That being said, it is a much more regimented, progressive, and not taking the physical conditioning into account, technically harder than Muay Thai. Whereas you could go train at a camp for 10 months and be ring-ready, it used to be 3 years spent only on footwork for Muay Chaiya. Its not as bad now, but I guess with only 1 proper teacher in Bangkok, its a little hard to come by.
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Old 01-31-2007, 07:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think MMA fighters have suffciently modified Muay Thai that it is basically sews up the holes your talking about. Not that every MMA fighter does it proficiently but as the sport progresses we will see more fighters incorporating those things.

Besides with supposedly one teacher and in Thailand to boot forget it. There is no silver bullet for MMA just hard work skill and ever progressing inovation. Each individual has to find what works best for them.
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Old 01-31-2007, 07:52 PM   #3 (permalink)

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What about all the other Muay Thai variations like Lethwei and Muay Boran?
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Old 01-31-2007, 07:55 PM   #4 (permalink)

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It could be like Sanda and Wushu and Sanshou all that good Chinese stuff.
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Old 01-31-2007, 08:05 PM   #5 (permalink)
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As much as i would love the stand up to evolve....I would hate for it to evolve so much to eliminate the chances for takedowns, thus eliminating the ground game. There really is nothing better than an exciting battle between a striker and a grappler where they are both applying their trade.
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Old 01-31-2007, 10:36 PM   #6 (permalink)

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Old 01-31-2007, 10:41 PM   #7 (permalink)

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theyve adapted the muay thai fine....
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Old 01-31-2007, 10:59 PM   #8 (permalink)

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As much as i would love the stand up to evolve....I would hate for it to evolve so much to eliminate the chances for takedowns, thus eliminating the ground game. There really is nothing better than an exciting battle between a striker and a grappler where they are both applying their trade.

If the striking is evolving, so will the ground game. MMA wouldn't be what it is if it's a one dimensional sport. It's up to the atheletic commisions and promoters to decide how to manage the balance between the two.
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I think kyokushin would be more ideal than muay thai. I mean it's the striking style of Bas Rutten and GSP.
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Old 01-31-2007, 11:14 PM   #10 (permalink)
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"Whereas you could go train at a camp for 10 months and be ring-ready, it used to be 3 years spent only on footwork for Muay Chaiya. Its not as bad now, but I guess with only 1 proper teacher in Bangkok, its a little hard to come by."

I don't get it. You are saying this style is better right?
Does that mean you think after 3 years of MT and let's say JJ or wrestling, you would lose to a guy trained in Muay Chaiya?
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