[baseballplayr71]

Originally Posted by MAILMAN

i call BS on this thread...........he was using...the dude is ripped and is like 190 and fights a 155 give me a break!!!

Cuts from 190? yea right

[baseballplayr71]

Originally Posted by muhr

If Sean's nandrolone ****bolite values are due to natural production, a carbon isotope ratio test will confirm this. Floyd Landis and Justin Gatlin, after testing positive for testosterone (had a T:E ratio above 4), were subjected to a carbon isotope ratio test and it was determined that they used synthetic testosterone. Armando Garcia, the CSAC bigwig, has indicated that they will use the aformentioned test.

Of course, this will not let us know if Sean's values are due to supplement contamination, but we will know if the numbers are from natural or synthetic production.

But it wasn't testosterone he was busted using it's a different hormone altogether , so I don't think that same type of test would work.

[S-dot]

you know I do think that is very possible. I dont think so with sherk or franca, but i think with a number of other guys they probly didnt take it.

[jayrico]

Originally Posted by mrblonde55

The fact that he may not of known what he was putting into his body may make him more sympathetic to the fans, but should have no bearing on whether he is suspended or not. The rule doesnt say its illegal to knowingly put a banned substance in his body, its illegal if its there.

There is only one person who is responsible for what Sherk puts in his body, and its him. If he wants to take 22 over the counter supplements a day, thats well within his right. But if it turns out that one of them had a banned substance in them, thats also his fault. Nobody is telling him he needs to take all that shit, nobody is telling him which supplements to take, and nobody but him chooses to ignore the fact that there is a laundry list of athletes in virtually every sport on the planet who have blown their careers and reputations by taking supplements that they were not 100% positive contained nothing illegal in them.

The purpose of the rule is to ensure a level playing field. If you have something in your body you shouldnt, youve broken that rule and are reaping the benefits of whatever unfair advantage it gives you. Willful ignorance (or even just plain negligence) as to what you are taking should provide you with no excuse.

I agree. Everyone come up with the same excuse that the supplements were contaminated. Its hard to make exceptions and maintain a strict drug test program at the same time. If Sherk was found innocent due to contaminated supplements then any fighter that test near 12 ng/ml could use Sherk's case as a precedent. Then we might have an influx of fighters getting away with steroid use.

[Apocalypse7]

Like I posted before, but most don't want to understand.


Sean Sherk and his supposed steroid use. He is in a pro sport that tests randomly. Why would he take a steroid that will show up positive in a drug test for up to 1 1/2 years knowing full well he will be tested sometime in that year and a half. When there are steroids out there that are out of your system in as little as two months. People have been trying to take down mixed martial arts since it first came to The United States, now they see their chance and of course they are on the attack.

[muhr]

Originally Posted by baseballplayr71

But it wasn't testosterone he was busted using it's a different hormone altogether , so I don't think that same type of test would work.

Yes it will. Nandrolone is an organic compound. Compare the carbon isotope profile of the nandrolone ****bolites to the carbon isotope profile of a reference steroid that isn't involved in the nandrolone pathway. If they're inconsistant, then he's guilty.

[Nocturnal1]

Originally Posted by MAILMAN

i call BS on this thread...........he was using...the dude is ripped and is like 190 and fights a 155 give me a break!!!

WOW! You have no idea what weight cutting is all about!

[jayrico]

Originally Posted by Apocalypse7

Like I posted before, but most don't want to understand.


Sean Sherk and his supposed steroid use. He is in a pro sport that tests randomly. Why would he take a steroid that will show up positive in a drug test for up to 1 1/2 years knowing full well he will be tested sometime in that year and a half. When their are steroids out there that are out of your system in as little as two months. People have been trying to take down mixed martial arts since it first came to The United States, now they see their chance and of course they are on the attack.

They are not tested randomly, which is the problem. They test fighters in pre-fight and post fight.

Also its not set in stone that it is still detectable for 1 year and 1/2. Steroids have half lives and how long it stays detectable in your system depends on the dosage you used. If someone is more infromed about this, correct me if I'm wrong.

[gilbert2468]

even by mistake its still cheating

[HuntingtonBeach]

N-methyl-N-trimethylsilyltrifluoroacetamide!?!