[down4whatever]

Originally Posted by Dick Blazer

he fucked up. now he has to pay.
he lives just down the road from me.
i may swing over and see if he's got any Deca left over.
i wanna get to 220

hahaha thats some funny stuff...lol.. let me know if hes got good deals ...

[King CroCop]

Originally Posted by Jack Starks

THE LEGEND WILL NEVER DIE

legend?

[strongmanfan]

Originally Posted by icepick

exactly. he's a professional athlete, and he ought to know the details about the substances he's putting in his body.

yes but do you realize how many steroids, diuretics, ephedrine, caffeine standards and cut off ranges there are when it comes to drug testing. I know when I was drug tested for powerlifting there were hundreds of banned substances and i got bored just reading the list of banned substances.

also with all the supplements that are coming out its real hard to keep on top of the game by knowing how the ingredients break down into the body.

its real good to find an endocrinologist or a chemist who can help you out with that.

I also had a strength and conditioning coach tell me that raw vegetables has nandrolone in it, but take that information for what its worth.

[Deebo]

Originally Posted by Dick Blazer

he fucked up. now he has to pay.
he lives just down the road from me.
i may swing over and see if he's got any Deca left over.
i wanna get to 220

lol

[strongmanfan]

Originally Posted by baseballplayr71

Unfortunately it's not quite that easy. The supplement companies hide things in their supplements, so that their competitors can't copy it. And furthermore some of the supplements especially the new ones, theres no way to tell how it ****bolizes in the body. I've heard of a legal testosterone booster (not pro-hormone) was recently found to ****bolize in the body like like a steroid (Dianabol i believe).

there are supplements like that now that are made in japan i think its called humongo or furuguno the names are something of the sort

[MAILMAN]

i call BS on this thread...........he was using...the dude is ripped and is like 190 and fights a 155 give me a break!!!

[Scotty B]

Originally Posted by MAILMAN

i call BS on this thread...........he was using...the dude is ripped and is like 190 and fights a 155 give me a break!!!

so he cuts 35 pounds to fight?...stop making up shit you sound fuckin stupid

[mrblonde55]

The fact that he may not of known what he was putting into his body may make him more sympathetic to the fans, but should have no bearing on whether he is suspended or not. The rule doesnt say its illegal to knowingly put a banned substance in his body, its illegal if its there.

There is only one person who is responsible for what Sherk puts in his body, and its him. If he wants to take 22 over the counter supplements a day, thats well within his right. But if it turns out that one of them had a banned substance in them, thats also his fault. Nobody is telling him he needs to take all that shit, nobody is telling him which supplements to take, and nobody but him chooses to ignore the fact that there is a laundry list of athletes in virtually every sport on the planet who have blown their careers and reputations by taking supplements that they were not 100% positive contained nothing illegal in them.

The purpose of the rule is to ensure a level playing field. If you have something in your body you shouldnt, youve broken that rule and are reaping the benefits of whatever unfair advantage it gives you. Willful ignorance (or even just plain negligence) as to what you are taking should provide you with no excuse.

[nyNinja]

Sherk was taking "get big muscles and sit on your opponent" supplements. Boring.

He should take some crazy exciting knockout supplements... what Spencer Fisher takes.

[muhr]

If Sean's nandrolone ****bolite values are due to natural production, a carbon isotope ratio test will confirm this. Floyd Landis and Justin Gatlin, after testing positive for testosterone (had a T:E ratio above 4), were subjected to a carbon isotope ratio test and it was determined that they used synthetic testosterone. Armando Garcia, the CSAC bigwig, has indicated that they will use the aformentioned test.

Of course, this will not let us know if Sean's values are due to supplement contamination, but we will know if the numbers are from natural or synthetic production.